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RobC


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Here's the table for week 2 of 2007. It's (c) GC77 as ever.


NOTE: Aussie open Qualifying points are only added at the end of week 4 (Aus Open)


Running     Start of week               Running So   18th  Def1 19th
Rank  rank  name                  points Points Far  Result     Result
110   111   Fernando Vicente        393   393   out   8           7
111   112   Andrei Pavel            389   389   out   5     5     5
112   113   Guillermo Coria         385   385   out   5           5
113   114   Teimuraz Gabashvili     385   385   out   5           5
114   117   Gilles Muller           376   376   out   5           5
115   118   Konstantinos Economidis 375   375   out   5           5
116   115   Michael Russell         381   374   out   3     8     1
117   120   Oliver Marach           374   374   out   7           5
118   121   Dick Norman             372   372   out   6           5
119   122   Mark Philippoussis      372   372   out   0           0
120   116   Olivier Patience        379   372   out   3     8     1
121   123   Alex Bogdanovic         370   370   out   1           1
122   124   Boris Pashanski         366   366   out   15         10
123   125   Lukasz Kubot            363   363   out   4           3
124   128   Simone Bolelli          360   361   out   5      4    5
125   127   Ilija Bozoljac          360   360   out   5      4    4
126   119   Raemon Sluiter          375   360   out   5     20    5
127   129   Thiago Alves            360   360   out   5           5
128   130   Jiri Novak              356   356   out   0           0
129   125   Robin Vik               364   354   out   5     15    5
130   131   Samuel Querrey          354   354   out   5           5
131   132   Ivan Navarro-Pastor     352   352   out   5           5
132   133   Wesley Moodie           350   350   out   5      5    5
133   135   Tomas Zib               345   348   out   9      5    8
134   134   Carlos Berlocq          346   346   out   12          5
135   136   Ricardo Mello           343   343   out   5           5

Sydney (S))     175 120  75 40 15   0  (5)
Auckland (A)    175 120  75 40 15   0  (5)
Aus Open Qs(aQ)          15  8  4   0   


Players in bold are in action in week 2.
Underlined players have lost ranking places since teh end of week 1 because of points they are defending from week 2 2007.



-- Edited by RobC at 18:49, 2007-01-08
-- Edited by RobC at 18:52, 2007-01-08

-- Edited by RobC at 11:13, 2007-01-12

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This is a bit of an experiment, as none of Boggo's competitors are playing in the week 2 tournaments - mainly so that they can concentrate on the Aussie Open qualifiers.


As a result, I've shown them on the same table as those who're defending points from '06. - including Boggo's favourite player, Raemon Sluiter, who drops below him at last


As a result, Alex starts the week up one place to WR121.  I think he'll be around 10th in the Qualifiers seeding.


Unfortunately, this is likely to mess up the final points for the week, so I'll have a think about how to represent it best.


Ernests Gulbis and Paul Capdeville are playing in Sydney & Auckland respectively, and could come up from the bottom of the table. This could, of course, mess things up big time for me.



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As a result, I've shown them on the same table as those who're defending points from '06. - including Boggo's favourite player, Raemon Sluiter, who drops below him at last




Are you sure that it isn't Okun?

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Ernests Gulbis and Paul Capdeville are playing in Sydney & Auckland respectively, and could come up from the bottom of the table. This could, of course, mess things up big time for me.



Gulbis and Capdeville go out.

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Rob, I'm confused about qualies points; I thought they were added along with the tournament, which would mean AO qualy points would not get added until after AO. But the ATP detailed points show last year's qualy points under this week's date.

Help me out and save me trawling through that damn rule book again - I bet you already know the answer to this. When do they get added? When do they drop off?

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Arka wrote:

RobC wrote:

As a result, I've shown them on the same table as those who're defending points from '06. - including Boggo's favourite player, Raemon Sluiter, who drops below him at last




Are you sure that it isn't Okun?


LOL

Incidentally is Sluiter Boggo's no 1 bogeyman or is there someone else ? If you cancel out Alex's mons win, Sluiter leads him 3-0

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elseneer was for a while i think. but alex turned it around, okun is currently 3-0 on alex which isnt great. wasnt there an american too mayne morrsion that beat alex a couple of times? the thing abouit alex is he seems to often go on runs of drawing the same peeople, and unfortunalty for him its normally tougher players.


with sluiter to be honest it should be 3-1 to al or 2-2 really, he should have won more than just 1, the only easy one for S was in Bratlislava i think, the other were alex's for the taking.


the matches v okun havent even been close - has alex even won a set vs him yet? cosdiering the different talent levels thats shocking (although i am including the usoq loss when alex shouldnt have been playing really).



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Rob - I think I'm right in saying that Andreev falls below Alex this week as well so up 2 to 120

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ooh - you could well be right I'm away from my spreadsheet right now, but looking atthe points he's defending, I'd say you were!

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Madeline wrote:

Rob, I'm confused about qualies points; I thought they were added along with the tournament, which would mean AO qualy points would not get added until after AO. But the ATP detailed points show last year's qualy points under this week's date.

Help me out and save me trawling through that damn rule book again - I bet you already know the answer to this. When do they get added? When do they drop off?

Hi Mad,  you're right they only get added after the AO, and similarly, don't drop off until week 3/4.  It's an experiment as much as anything, but I think I should probably just do 2 tables. One for this week, where no- one's in action, but which defines the state of play after week 2, and another which is "Boggo's Competitors Weeks 3&4: Aussie Open"...which would have all the Qualies points on it 

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ultimateshedman wrote:


If you cancel out Alex's mons win, Sluiter leads him 3-0


If you cancel out Bangkok, Andy has a 100% record against Federer.


If you cancel out the last 8 times they've met, Tim also has a 100% record against him.


 



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seagull wrote:

Rob - I think I'm right in saying that Andreev falls below Alex this week as well so up 2 to 120


RobC wrote:





ooh - you could well be right I'm away from my spreadsheet right now, but looking atthe points he's defending, I'd say you were!





Checking the spreadsheet, Andreev is now just off the bottom of the table, at WR136.  What was wrong in the table was Alex's start of week ranking, which should have been 123.


 



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I'm killing this thread off.  Please turn to the new Aussie open "competitors" thread

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RobC wrote:


ultimateshedman wrote:


If you cancel out Alex's mons win, Sluiter leads him 3-0


If you cancel out Bangkok, Andy has a 100% record against Federer.


If you cancel out the last 8 times they've met, Tim also has a 100% record against him.


 




Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was cancelling out one of Sluiter's wins and Boggo's win. Don't why I did that, doesn't make sense really. Anway, Sluiter has an 80% success record over Boggo

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elseneer was for a while i think. but alex turned it around, okun is currently 3-0 on alex which isnt great. wasnt there an american too mayne morrsion that beat alex a couple of times? the thing abouit alex is he seems to often go on runs of drawing the same peeople, and unfortunalty for him its normally tougher players.


with sluiter to be honest it should be 3-1 to al or 2-2 really, he should have won more than just 1, the only easy one for S was in Bratlislava i think, the other were alex's for the taking.


the matches v okun havent even been close - has alex even won a set vs him yet? cosdiering the different talent levels thats shocking (although i am including the usoq loss when alex shouldnt have been playing really).




I think America's Jeff Morrison is the biggest bogeyman, he has a 2-0 head-to-head record. However, both matches were in early 2005 on US hard courts during Alex's post-DC slump when he only won 1 match between March and mid June. Morrison won 6-7[5], 7-5, 6-2 in Mexico City and 6-4, 4-6, 6-3 in Lubbock. In both matches Alex ran out of gas in the 3rd set and Morrison's better fitness told (in particular the Mexico match which was played at high altitude.) At the time Morrison was close to the top 100 aswell and ranked quite a bit higher. I think Alex would beat him if they played now.

Yeah, Alex should have won the Sluiter matches in Kolding and the Ukraine, in both ones he was the better player but lost his way in the crucial tiebreaks. In Bratislava, Alex didn't really turn up that day and Sluiter hit some incredible winners. Plus, Count and I were watching and Alex never plays well when that happens

Alex hasn't won a set yet v Okun, yeah it is shocking. Okun's just a solid player with a decent forehand, doesn't make too many errors. Alex should be beating him something like 3 and 3. Unfortunately, Okun's more of an extrovert character and he seems to relish the DC-style atmosphere while Alex is more of the opposite.

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