Tennis Stat Software

Drew · Dec 10, 2006

Tennis Stat Software

RobC · All-time great

Just installed it. Looks intriguing!

steven · Tennis legend

I downloaded the ATP version about a year and a half ago and the WTA version when it came out 6 months later. It's not bad, and if you put the GB players in a 'team', you get quite a lot of good info (perfect for finding out how many times GB players other than Tim, Greg and Andy have reached main tour semis in the last 25 years, for example!), but I ended up giving up on it when I last got asked to pay for updates because at the time, the updates were coming through 24 hours or more after they appeared on the ATP site.

Other drawbacks are that it has always seemed to run incredibly slowly even on a fast PC (though maybe that's just because I asked it to do complicated things!) and that it only really included main tour events - and their rankings data reflects that too. They started including Challengers about a year ago, but there's not much history there.

In the end, if you want up to date stuff, ATP/ITF are faster to update and quicker to use, and if you want to query historical data (Which was the main thing I used it for) it's only really any good if you're interested in main tour events.

Having said all that, it has potential - if they could speed up how it runs and makes the results included a lot more comprehensive, it would be great - and it's not that expensive.

-- Edited by steven at 16:32, 2006-12-10

RobC · All-time great

thanks for that Steven.

My first "test" of the software was to check if it agreed with my Josh & Bloomers table. which it doesn't: Richard's down at 240, and Josh is below Jonny Marray at 271.

This appears to be because they don't include the futures results.

However, it could be a good way to get the Andy, Tim and Boggo tables together at the start of a week - especially those pain in the b**t 18th, 19th & defending points.....

steven · Tennis legend

Another similar program is OnCourt http://www.oncourt.info/. It has a more garish interface, but does contain more info - Challengers going back to 1998, Futures/Satellites going back to 2004 and qualifying (main tour and Challengers only) going back to 2000.

Although it has a lot more info than Tennis Navigator, it makes historical data harder to extract in any meaningful way. That's probably because it's main intended use seems to be to predict the results of upcoming matches as a betting aid, using past data about how well players have done in H2Hs and on different surfaces, not to mention their star signs and biorhythms (which kind of put me off!)

It's quite fun, but I found I could do a better job of predicting results myself than it could, so I never started paying for updates.

I'd be interested in what you think about both of these programs though - it may be that they have moved on since I last tried them.

Drew · Dec 10, 2006

Thanks for that steven.

The reason is it slow....even on my new notebook (core duo 1.7ghz with 1g mem) it can still take 30-40 secs to bring up a player profile is that its historical data goes back so far and includes every player. It uses an SQL database which is the industry standard for large DB's so thats not the issue.

I think you can limit searches for players who are just 'active'. Not tried that yet. They should also allow you to limit historical data. By default it goes back all the way but it would be nice to search limit by year.

Looks good and you dont have to be online to check data.

Let me know what you think Rob.

Drew · Dec 10, 2006

My laptop took 12 secs to bring up Murrays profile. That was based on it being the first action I carried out once running.

It only took 3-4 secs for Federers profile to come up after that...he has a lot of data to bring up...nice stat...his career prize money....a shade over $28 million !!!

Henman....just a little over $11 million. Murray not even a $million yet !!!

So the first database access can take upto 15 secs but once your in to that part of the DB only 3-4 secs from there.