Thirteen ATP tournaments selected for round robin testing
* Three formats to be monitored to determine benefits for fans, broadcasters, others
* Sunday Starts also will be featured at several of the selected tournaments
The ATP announced today that it will test three different round robin formats at select circuit events in 2007. Round robin format is one of a series of on-court enhancements for 2007 outlined during the US Open to improve the tournament experience for players, tennis fans, broadcasters and event promoters.
Round robin—where players are placed into groups or pools, and the top player in each group then moves on to the knockout phase of the tournament—increases spectators’ chances of seeing their favorite stars, as one loss in a round-robin pool does not automatically eliminate a player, and also improves scheduling for broadcasters and tournament promotion. Round robin has been a staple of the Tennis Masters Cup circuit finale and ARAG ATP World Team Championship but not utilized at any other ATP tournament. The 13 tournaments chosen subject to final approval by the ATP will be held on different surfaces in different countries throughout the 2007 season, starting the first week in Adelaide, Australia.
favours the top players i think and gives less of a chance for players to spring a surprise. also, I imagine who goes through may sometimes be decided on "game difference" which I think is a bit silly to be honest!
will also lead to a fair few meaningless matches, eg if A beats C, B beats C, then the match between A and B is almost meaningless!
dunno how it will affect qualifying either, and how they will do points.
also now Newport is 24 man event, so ppl like boggo will have less of a chance of getting in
will also lead to a fair few meaningless matches, eg if A beats C, B beats C, then the match between A and B is almost meaningless!
I don't understand this. The format they are introducing is for groups of 3, so in the example above, A and B are fighting for the right to go through to the knockout stage, surely.
I don't much like this idea of introducing RR, and I too would like to know how it affects qualifying, points etc. I still feel that this will be detrimental in the long run, favouring as it does the higher-ranked players and making it harder for somebody to make a breakthrough. I sincerely hope it never becomes the norm - 13 tournaments in a year I can just about stand.
How will the Sunday starts work, though? If the tournaments the week before don't end until Sunday and these tournaments start the same day, I can foresee some confusion and almost completely impossible situations logistically!
I dont like it but I'm willing to give it a go. Thankfully its not with the major tournaments and i can see problems creeping in with the weather. Hopefully we can revert back to normality in 2008.
however,the ATP officials seem very determined to make some changes and with players like Rafa being the most vocal supporter, it is unlikely they will abandon this format in the future
Are there any actual players have voiced any negative views of such on this at all so far?
At least it's a bonus at Queen's when we'll see the British WC's playing a few matches in a RR which is a plus incase they get drawn against a very tough opponent within their group.
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A round robin format designed to keep players active and organisers in business will be tested for the first time at the Next Generation Adelaide Tennis International next year.
Breaking with decades of knock-out format tradition, the men's ATP Tour has opted to try three different round robin approaches at 13 events in 2007, and Adelaide's tournament will be the first.
Players have long complained of the cut-throat nature of tournament play, particularly early in the season when they are struggling to regain touch, and round robin events are seen as the answer.
"I think this is a great idea," said world No.2 Rafael Nadal.
"Finally we really move forward and we do something really good for our sport.
"This will be good for our tournaments, for us the players and especially for fans and television since they will be able to have and see their favourite players more than once."
Organisers, too, have fretted over the early departures of the big name seeds who bankroll events where the fight for the title is generally a secondary concern behind the drawing power of the players.
"As one of the opening tournaments of the tennis year, we believe the Next Generation Adelaide International is perfectly placed to pioneer this initiative," said tournament co-director Peter Johnston.
"The tournament's fans will receive fantastic value for money, with the opportunity to see the top players playing more than once.
"We can now showcase the game over eight days beginning on a Sunday in a format where every match counts."
The Adelaide event will feature a 32-man main draw as usual, but the path to the quarter-finals will be different to that of past years.
Starting on Sunday rather than the traditional Monday beginning, the tournament will see a 16-man play-off, featuring four qualifiers plus the 12 lowest-ranked direct entrants.
The eight winners will then go through to a 24-player round robin draw, with eight groups of three players ensuring each participant gets a minimum of two matches.
The best-performed player in each group will then go through to the quarters, where the knock-out battles will resume.
Starting on Sunday rather than the traditional Monday beginning, the tournament will see a 16-man play-off, featuring four qualifiers plus the 12 lowest-ranked direct entrants.
The eight winners will then go through to a 24-player round robin draw, with eight groups of three players ensuring each participant gets a minimum of two matches.
The best-performed player in each group will then go through to the quarters, where the knock-out battles will resume.
So if I get this those who have wnet through say 3 rnds of qualies dont get into the RR stage. They go through basically ANOTHER qualifying 'play-off' to get through to play the 'top players'....this is abismal....this will cut the prospect of the 'david v goliath' matches that have thrilled us for years....it is good for the sport that qualifiers get the chance to play and beat the top guys...its one of the appeals of Tennis. I love the opportunity that it brings....im afraid I may get bored saying the same folk time after time...variety is the spice of TENNIS !!!
I'm remaining sceptical but it could yet be good if the ranking points are awarded appropriately. So no match would be completely pointless if there were always ranking points at stake. You could have possibilities like 10 points per win in the group, or even say 8 points per set.
I really don't understand the idea of having a 24 man tournament though, that really does seem dumb and backward.
jezzauk wrote: I'm remaining sceptical but it could yet be good if the ranking points are awarded appropriately. So no match would be completely pointless if there were always ranking points at stake. You could have possibilities like 10 points per win in the group, or even say 8 points per set.
I really don't understand the idea of having a 24 man tournament though, that really does seem dumb and backward.
Time will tell.
the ONLY positive thing to come out of the first tournament, is that the players will be getting used to the courts and are up and running for the year!