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Baker on DC


edit: this is from todays Times


TWO years ago my ranking was in the 600s and the Davis Cup was something that Tim Henman and Greg Rusedski did for Great Britain. Today, in Ukraine, I may find out that I’m playing for my country for the first time and that fills me with wonder.


If it happens, there will be no prouder man in sport. If I’m not selected, I hope that the experiences I’ve had in the past seven days and the effort I’m going to put into the next few years mean that there will be a time for me some day.

I first heard from John Lloyd, the Britain captain, during the Challenger event in New York’s Bronx before the US Open and he made it clear that he was going to choose five players, that there was a possible singles spot up for grabs because he wasn’t sure how Greg was health-wise and our attitude was going to be all important. It was a surprise for me because Josh Goodall was playing extremely well and I’d been in some really tough tournaments in the US, results not what I’d wanted them to be.

The original plan was for Jamie Delgado, Alan Mackin and me to play a few matches at a training camp in Vienna, to simulate best-of-five-set matches and see who came out best, but Alan chose to play a tournament in France rather than join us. I missed three Challenger events to be here, but these are huge opportunities that don’t come along very often and my feeling is to hell with my ranking for three weeks. I couldn’t give a damn whether I’m ranked 300 (my present position) 350, 250 or 400.

My aim is the top 100. It’s about hitting the jackpot, about being in the big time. What I’m learning here from people like John, Peter Lundgren and, since he arrived on Monday, Brad Gilbert is immense.

Andy Murray has arrived and he’s in top form. What a very special talent he is — something really different in the sport. We’re not short of voices in the locker-room or on the ride to and from the hotel. With John, Greg and Brad talking, there’s not much room for anyone else to get a word in edgeways.

I hit from 9am until 1pm yesterday and at one stage I looked around and there was Andy at the net post, Brad’s making comments all the time and Peter is taking the session.

Peter is very much a people person — he has coached Roger Federer, Marcelo Rios and Marat Safin and all three are pretty explosive characters. Federer was as bad-tempered as hell in his teenage days. I sense that Peter looks for signs as to what kind of person you are and once he’s comfortable, he starts handing out the information.

I haven’t played anything on clay this year and hard courts are my best surface, but I spent 18 months training for hours on it in Spain. I’ve been doing a hell of a lot of training, I’m the fittest I’ve been and at 20 my body can do so much more than it could when I was 18.

This isn’t a place I’d particularly choose to come to. It’s fairly basic, the venue is a run-of-the-mill club in the woods with one of a block of four courts cordoned off at one end, where a stand is being built for 1,000 people. The court isn’t very good, either, slippery with a lot of uneven bounce. They are ugly conditions. The captain has kept things pretty light-hearted, but I believe he’s not going to be afraid of making really difficult decisions.

I want to play, even if I’ll probably have to be content with a dead rubber once we’ve won. If Greg says he’s fit, I’m sure he’ll play. And Delgy has been brilliant around the net in practice — he’s a certainty for the doubles.



-- Edited by Count Zero at 09:55, 2006-09-21

-- Edited by Count Zero at 10:32, 2006-09-21

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Thanks for posting that, Count. Very interesting, and perhaps makes the Mackin decision a little more understandable.

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i can understand it from jamies positon, if he sacrificed his challenger events and alan didnt, but my main issue was with the fact that greg and andy wernt there really.


IMO 2 full weeks preparation time for a 3 day event is some what over the top, yes its on heavy clay, but its not the dc final we're talking about here.  



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True. However if the intention had been for the other 3 to have sort of "play-offs" to see who was coping best with the conditions, there was certainly no need for Andy at that point. Maybe Greg should have been there, I'm not at all sure that one of the younger ones wouldn't do better than Greg on clay.

I do agree though that it seems unreasonable to expect lower-ranked players to give up 3 weeks-worth of possible points.

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again madeline you right, i think you should replaces JL, cause his words came across as 'i cant tell if alan is fit enough for 5 sets on clay' and it was described as a 'bonding' session. He should have come out and said from the start it was going to be a 3 way play off for the place, alan it seems didnt relaise this as from the artcile b4 he was quite suprised he was dropped, i wonder if he was told in advance be there or your not in the team? from the artcile i dont think so, maybe another break down in communcitaion on british tennis.  

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Count Zero wrote:



IMO 2 full weeks preparation time for a 3 day event is some what over the top, yes its on heavy clay, but its not the dc final we're talking about here.  





.....but turning it around,  Jamie and Jamie get 2 weeks of world class coaching for free.  Which hopefully they can take into the rest of the season and the rest of their careers. Maybe this tie only warrants a couple of days training. However, the LTA have commited to provide Brad & Peter coaching to the top British talent, and the sheer logistical problems of getting them all together in one place means that it's better to extend the DC coaching than to try and set up a seperate camp in (say) a couple of weeks time.


Hopefully they'll be able to do some long camps in Nov/Dec.



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thats a very good point, and your right, esp as it will be coaching on clay which our players despertaly need (i would imagien that the majoirty of british coaches are not great clay coaches either), but it also highlights the shame that greg and andy were missing for the most of it as i believe a player like baker would get loads from hitting with andy, we heard boggo mention a while ago that andy is a real inspiraation and he wants to follow him up and i'm sure all the others do too.

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agreed.  Luckily it looks like they got some time hitting together this week at least. Not sure how much time you can ask Andy to contribute at his stage in his career.

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to be honest i think now is the best time, look at tim, he never praticed with the younger guys at all, it would be great if we can get andy used to it, especialy as he's their age as such.


its good that they did get some time together and good that jjamie says andy is in top form, greg vs stak is by no means a certainty, staks game plan will probably be to try and keep greg on that court as long as poss, and on clay thats the easiet done, just stay back and hit lots of high deep moonballs that its impossible to attack and force greg to go for winners



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Thanks for posting this Count. I hope that Jamie Baker does get to play this weekend, even if it is only a dead rubber.

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Thanks for this article Count

Good to see Jamie sounding so pumped-up and determined. I feel that he really should have been given his chance against Stakhovsky today, this tie is the ideal opportunity to blood new players [not many teams in Euro-African zone 1 will have a no 1 player outside the top 150] and unfortunately it has been an opportunity squandered [I've posted more on this in the GB v Ukraine thread].

Hopefully he'll get to play a dead rubber and the experience of working with guys like Lundgren and Gilbert aswell as hitting with Greg and Andy will really inspire him for the rest of the year as it did in 2005 when he was picked as a hitting partner against Switzerland. He needs to do well in Nottingham points-wise as after that it's going to be challengers and he has lots to defend in October.

The article makes the Mackin situation sound a bit more understandable from Lloyd's point of view. However, surely those best of 5 set matches could have been played in Odessa this week as has been the case in previous ties. I can't remember a tie where players were sent for a full week's preparation and then another week's preparation in the venue itself. Expecting the guys to forfeit all those points is a bit much really, especially for Mackin who's 24 - been part of DC squads lots of times before, and is really looking to push on into the top 300 by the end of the year.

It does sound questionable whether Lloyd actually made it clear to Mackin before he played in Orleans, that if he didn't attend the Vienna training camp he would be forfeiting his place as if that had been the case, Mackin would surely have gone for a challenger this week [he withdrew from the one he had entered]. The DC captains don't seem to properly realise that they need to make it absolutely clear to players whether they're going to be in the squad otherwise it's unfair to those players who then can't enter tournaments as they've missed the entry deadline.

I think it's good for Andy to get involved with the lower ranked players like Jamie, as Jamie's said in the past, Andy is such an inspiration. Greg has always been encouraging of guys like Boggo, Jamie Baker, Andy Banks while Henman has tended to be more aloof [apart from taking Murray under his wing, and doing the same with Boggo temporarily in 2001].

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I think that Tim's aloofness towards so many of our younger players is down to the fact that in many cases he questioned their desire for success. Tim worked bloody hard to make the most of his ability and I think it is understandable that he had no wish to work with players who's commitment he found questionable. Whether or not his assessment of these players was accurate is another question and one which I don't feel qualified to answer.

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