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Greg and Boggo's rankings weeks 35 and 36: US Open etc..


Here's this week's Division 2 table.


 


Running|-------Start of week--------|Running So  18th  Def1  Def2(3)19th 20th
Rank  rank       name         points Points Far Result           Result
120   115   Igor Kunitsyn       375   364   5-out 1     12          1
121   119   Konstantinos Economides363 363  out   1      -          0
122   121   Kenneth Carlsen     362   362   out   8      5          5
123   121   Flavio Saretta      360   360  5-out  5      -          4
124   126   Carlos Berlocq      340 347 12g-out(+12c) 5 12          5
125   130   Albert Portas       328   345 22D-out 5      5          5
126   176   Jiri Novak          226   341 150-out 1     35          0
127   146   Simone Bolelli      280 341 22g-out(+50c) 3  5     4    1
128   127   Nicolas Devilder    340   340   out   1      -          1
127   138   Lukasz Kubot(q)     297   331 90-out  4     50     6 4  3     1
130   109   Yeu-Tse Wang        394   329  5-out  6     70          5
131   150   Ilija Bozoljac      275   324   50d   1      -          1
132   133   Yen-Hsun Lu         319   319   out   5      -          5
133   135   Ivo Minar           311   314 1d-out(+8) 5   5          5
134   149   Gorka Fraile        275   313 35g(+35k) 4   27     5    3
135   136   Greg Rusedski       310   310  5-out  5      5          5

136   173   Werner Eschauer     242 310 22D-out(+50k) 3  -          1
137   124   Paul Capdeville     353   308   out   5     50          5
138   143   Robert Kendrick(q)  285   304 20-out  1      -          1
139    39   Andre Agassi        925   300  75-out 0    700          0
140   137   Diego Hartfield     299   299   out   1      -          1
141   155   Andreas Vinciguerra 263   298 35D-out 1      -          1
142   139   Tomas Zib           296   296  1D-out 5      5          5
143   140   Alex Bogdanovic     293   293   out   1      -          1
144   128   Michael Berrer      339   292  5-out  5     49     8    5
145   141   George Bastl(q)     291   291 20-out  5     20          3
146   176   Frederico Luzzi     257   291 35-out  1                 1
147   132   Ricardo Mello       321   291   out   5     35          5
148   131   Alexander Peya      328   285   out   1     35     8    0     0
149   145   Amer Delic          281   284  8 -out 5      -          4
150   161   Tomas Cakl          249 283 35d-out(+12f) 5  5          5
151   134   Cyril Saulnier      314   280  1g-out 1     35          1
152   158   Jeff Morrison(q)    260   279 20-out  1      -          1
153   144   Jerome Haehnel      285   278 5c-out  1     12          1
154   160   Michael Russell(q)  259   278 20-out  1      -          1
155   147   Oscar Hernandez     278   278  1-out  5      5          5


Players in italics gained ranking places on Saturday and Sunday. Players Underlined were knocked out on Saturday and Sunday.


Brasov CH(b) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)
Donetsk CH(d) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)
Dusseldorf CH(D) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)
Genova CH(g) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)


US Open  1000 700 450 250 150 75 35 5(q:15 8 4)
Kranj CH(k) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)
Como CH(c) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)
Freudenstadt CH(f) 50   35   22   12    5    1(2)



-- Edited by imoen at 12:25, 2006-09-02
-- Edited by RobC at 22:12, 2006-09-03
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-- Edited by RobC at 21:43, 2006-09-05
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Greg & Boggo also start the week by gaining places: Mello, Saulnier and Agassi drop past them both, while  Kendrick goes up past Boggo and Kubot  goes past Greg, as qualifiers at the USO.


Other losers are Korolev and Luczak,  while Falla, Bastl, Morrison and Russell all gain places after qualifying for the USO.


Beating Tim, would see Greg up a possible 8 places to 126th. Beating Federer............


If Kendrick were to beat Andy, it would be a double blow, as he'd overtake a Henman- losing Greg. Bastl would overtake them both if he won his first round. Morrison and Russell would both overtake Boggo if they got to the second round, while Bolelli would need to reach the semis in Como to do the same.


As far as threats are concerned, there's more happening at this end of the table in the first two days in New York.



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Fewer people are playing this week than I thought would be the case down here in the second division. That's good news for Greg and Boggo (although it could change next week).


I don't think any of those qualifiers will win their round one matches as they all have pretty bad draws (watch them all win now) but I'll be putting quite a few pins in to make sure!



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Table updated.  Many changes - sorry.



  • Many to do with points defended from week 2 last year: Berlocq, Wang, Peya, Berrer, Bolelli, Luczak, Kubot all diving down. 

  • Haehnel and Vinciguerra make it onto the table after strong challengers last week.

  • Looks like qualifying tournament points should go on this week rather than last: Delic and Minar affected.

So.... the result is that Greg is now up at 131st, and Boggo's at 136th


Let the tournaments begin!


(Once ATP is back up, I'll add 20th points for those who need them, and change 18th/19th where necessary)



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Table updated.


Again, many changes - thanks Bethan!


The good news is that I'd missed a few points being defended, meaning that Capdeville, Berrer and Peya drop places.


The result is that Greg is at 130, and that Boggo is at 135 - just 1 short of his highest ever ranking


Anyway, the news from New York is good at this end, only one competitor winning in New York and sneaking onto the table: a young pretender ranked about 170 or so until today called Agassi.


Otherwise, Saretta and Morrison  lost. 


Carlos Berlocq won in Como.


 


Over to Imoen to analyse the (considerable) threats.



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First things first, a win over Henman would take Greg up to 124, although he could lose two places from that if Berlocq gets to the quarters of the Camo challenger and if Wang doesn't beat Federer.


Now, if Greg loses. The only person between him and Boggo currently is Kendrick who could really spoil the party by winning (overtaking Greg AND knocking out Andy).


So, threats to both of them. These guys can overtake both in one fell swoop by winning their round one matches: Berrer (plays Nalbandian), and Bastl (plays Ferrero). Then, Russell can overtake Boggo by winning round one, Greg by winning round 2.


We then get into challenger-land, all these guys have to reach the final to overtake Boggo: Hernandez, Bolleli, Haehnel, Marin. On the plus side they're all in the same challenger so only two can overtake! (can't overtake Greg even winning said challenger)


Kubot can overtake by reaching round 3 of the US open. (Greg as well).


And finally, Behrend and Fraile (just off the end of the table) can overtake by winning their respective challengers (only Boggo).


Oh and some guy called Agassi could cause some problems if he decides to keep winning.


So. Worst case for Greg, if he loses first round: a drop of 6 to 136 - where he started.
Best case, if he loses first round: remaining where he is at 130 - 6 higher than last week.


Worst case for Boggo: a drop of 9 to 144.
Best case for Boggo: remaining where he is at 135 - 5 higher than last week.


Just one final caveat, for anyone brave enough to have reached the end of the post... the situation could all change next week when more challengers occur.



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......oh, and there's a few more US Open competitors off the bottom of the table still, who could have a good run and overtake.  Jiri Novak and Sam Querrey are probably the better known of these....


....good pinning!



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As the action in New York looks like it'll take a while to happen, I've updated for today's Challenger results in Europe (updated on the ATP site time for once!)


Haehnel and Bolleli advance.  Haehnel needs a semis place to overtake Boggo. Marin won, but has not advanced.


Hernandez is out, and Montcourt  has withdrawn.


(Bad news in the Como draw, though: Jamie Delgardo went out in R1)


If you were following last week's thread, you'll be interested to know that Tipsarevic couldn't continue his top form from Central Asia into Central Europe. He went out in R1 in Freudenstadt.



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Table updated for Europe.


....And there's no change to the table: all the matches involved lower- ranked players.


The one US Open result affecting Boggo & Greg was Berrer going out to Nalbandian. He was just 1 point behind Boggo, so that's a relief


Russell is on court now, and has taken a set off Monfils. Its 0-0 in the 4th. If he wins, he overtakes Alex.


Kubot has taken a set off Vliegen. If he gets to the third round, he overtakes Alex, and Greg as well if he loses to Tim.


Bastl, Kendrick (of course) and Querry are on later.



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Russell is on court now, and has taken a set off Monfils. Its 0-0 in the 4th. If he wins, he overtakes Alex.




Russell didn't make it

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The table's updated.


Well, as Greg has shown, they don't last long in the Grand Slams at this level.


Only Falla and Gabashvili advanced ahead of the boys, while Kubot overtook Alex by beating Vliegen, and Querrey makes it onto the bottom of the table. 


Meanwhile, Wang, Kendrick, Bastl and Russell  did what top 150 players do.


Boggo's down one at 136th. Greg's steady at 130th.


Over to Imoen to look at the threats.


(I think) there's only Novak, Sweeting and Okun still playing in NY off the bottom of the table.



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(I think) there's only Novak, Sweeting and Okun still playing in NY off the bottom of the table.





There is one more in the form of Chiudineli.


Firstly, Rob and I are in the process of working out exactly where Kubot is in the table, I have him still behind Boggo (i much prefer my table). If that is the case then he is an immediate threat, winning against Okun would place him above both Brits, beyond any doubt. So mega pins into him.


Bolleli is the next threat to Boggo, he will overtake by winning his next round(ie reaching the semis) in the Camo Challenger. He will move ahead of Greg by winning the challenger.


Haehnel needs to win another two rounds to overtake Boggo (ie reaching the semis), and has to win to move ahead of Greg.


Marin must reach the final to overtake Boggo, and win to beat Greg (there's a pattern developing here!)


Agassi is up next, if he gets to the fourth round he will overtake both Greg and Boggo in one fell swoop.


Fraile and Behrend off the edge of the table can both overtake Boggo by winning their challengers.


So, worst case Boggo: a drop of 7 places (6 if Kubot is already above).


worst case Greg: a drop of 3 places.



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great work you two.


go boggo go :) 



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Firstly, Rob and I are in the process of working out exactly where Kubot is in the table, I have him still behind Boggo (i much prefer my table). If that is the case then he is an immediate threat, winning against Okun would place him above both Brits, beyond any doubt. So mega pins into him.




Good news!   both the ATP and tennisfacts had Kubot's 18th & 19th scores wrong. And it turns out he needs a 20th score as well.... the upshot is that he's only got 291 points, not 295, and is 3 places behind Boggo

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So, worst case Boggo: a drop of 7 places (6 if Kubot is already above).

worst case Greg: a drop of 3 places.





Hmm, need to add, in increasing order of unprobability:


Querrey overtakes Boggo if he beats Gaudio, and Greg if he goes on to beatGicquel or Ferrero


Jiri Novak overtakes them both if he beats Srichaphan, then Malisse or Phau


Chiudinelli, Sweeting & Okun(who plays Kubot next) would overtake them both if they made it to the quarter- finals.


.....making it more like 11 and 7 points drops worst case. 


(Come on Noam Okun! you owe it to Boggo to beat Kubot, after all you've doen to his career!)



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