Week 8 - WTA 1000 - Dubai, UAE (outdoor hard)

wolf · Tennis legend

Week 8 - WTA 1000 - Dubai, UAE (outdoor hard)

the addict · Tennis legend

Yet another WC for Eden. She's got good contacts out there.

Blue_Belle · Strong Club Player

the addict wrote:
Yet another WC for Eden. She's got good contacts out there.

And taken SBG along for the ride too.

the addict · Tennis legend

Blue_Belle wrote:
the addict wrote:
Yet another WC for Eden. She's got good contacts out there.
And taken SBG along for the ride too.

They played there on a WC back in 2019 and beat Kichenok and Kedermetova in the first round.

Other doubles WChave been 2021 with Van der Hoek, wiith Zimmerman in 2022 (losing to Kichenok and Ostapenko), and last year with Harriet.

DF · Tennis legend

wolf wrote:
L28: Miyu Kato & Aldila Sutjiadi (JPN/INA) CR 57 (29+28) vs (WC) Sarah Beth Grey & Eden Silva CR 330 (163+167)

The girls lost 4-6 2-6

the addict · Tennis legend

DF wrote:
wolf wrote:
L28: Miyu Kato & Aldila Sutjiadi (JPN/INA) CR 57 (29+28) vs (WC) Sarah Beth Grey & Eden Silva CR 330 (163+167)
The girls lost 4-6 2-6

Not a bad scoreline, considering the rankings. And $9,100 to share for making the trip.

9vicman · Strong Club Player

Did Katie Boulter state anywhere why she was missing the Middle East swing or did she prioritise a training block?

the addict · Tennis legend

9vicman wrote:
Did Katie Boulter state anywhere why she was missing the Middle East swing or did she prioritise a training block?

Haven't seen anything, but she's now in San Diego for the WTA500 next week (as is Jodie)

the addict · Tennis legend

Well. well, well. Qualifier Anna Kalinskaya has beaten Ostapenko, Gauf and Swiantek in succesive matches to reach the final. She was ranked 80 going into the AO, is now WR40 and will be quite a bit higher in the next rankings. Just shows how it is possible to progress up the rankings in no time at all with a run of wins in the right tournaments.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Well. well, well. Qualifier Anna Kalinskaya has beaten Ostapenko, Gauf and Swiantek in succesive matches to reach the final. She was ranked 80 going into the AO, is now WR40 and will be quite a bit higher in the next rankings. Just shows how it is possible to progress up the rankings in no time at all with a run of wins in the right tournaments.

Yes, absolutely smile

Still remember seeing Kalinskaya in Wimble qualifying - one of those players who makes the game look SO easy

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Well. well, well. Qualifier Anna Kalinskaya has beaten Ostapenko, Gauf and Swiantek in succesive matches to reach the final. She was ranked 80 going into the AO, is now WR40 and will be quite a bit higher in the next rankings. Just shows how it is possible to progress up the rankings in no time at all with a run of wins in the right tournaments.

So heres a thing. All 1000 events are treated equally. In terms of points, but are they really equal in terms of stature and meaning to the winner. Even if the field is seemingly as strong, do the players treat them equally in terms of effort.

I guess Im asking should Qatar or Wuhan sit at the same level as IW and Miami? Or in the mens, should Paris and Monte Carlo really carry the same weighting ? Particularly where the fields have fewer players in the draw?

Should Kalinskaya reaching a final here be as big a deal as if she does it in 2 weeks time in Indian Wells?

indiana · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
Well. well, well. Qualifier Anna Kalinskaya has beaten Ostapenko, Gauf and Swiantek in succesive matches to reach the final. She was ranked 80 going into the AO, is now WR40 and will be quite a bit higher in the next rankings. Just shows how it is possible to progress up the rankings in no time at all with a run of wins in the right tournaments.
So heres a thing. All 1000 events are treated equally. In terms of points, but are they really equal in terms of stature and meaning to the winner. Even if the field is seemingly as strong, do the players treat them equally in terms of effort.

I guess Im asking should Qatar or Wuhan sit at the same level as IW and Miami? Or in the mens, should Paris and Monte Carlo really carry the same weighting ? Particularly where the fields have fewer players in the draw?

Should Kalinskaya reaching a final here be as big a deal as if she does it in 2 weeks time in Indian Wells?

Yes, yes, yes and yes, well at least as big a points deal.

The points are clear ( and to me all '1000' events now giving 1000 points to the winner as distinct to a mixture of 1000 and 900 is clearer ). Life indeed looked to be getting simpler before all the recently belatedly introduced WTA 2024 rule changes effecting mandatory appearances and points which has left a lot of folk very confused ).

The actual points on offer though are clear, there to be won, and up to the players. And there have been plenty surprise winners and finalists in the arguably higher status events, thus also leaping up the rankings, whatever possible variation in players' focus and efforts - even in the 2000 points Slams, eg. Radacanu vs Fernandez.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
the addict wrote:
Well. well, well. Qualifier Anna Kalinskaya has beaten Ostapenko, Gauf and Swiantek in succesive matches to reach the final. She was ranked 80 going into the AO, is now WR40 and will be quite a bit higher in the next rankings. Just shows how it is possible to progress up the rankings in no time at all with a run of wins in the right tournaments.
So heres a thing. All 1000 events are treated equally. In terms of points, but are they really equal in terms of stature and meaning to the winner. Even if the field is seemingly as strong, do the players treat them equally in terms of effort.

I guess Im asking should Qatar or Wuhan sit at the same level as IW and Miami? Or in the mens, should Paris and Monte Carlo really carry the same weighting ? Particularly where the fields have fewer players in the draw?

Should Kalinskaya reaching a final here be as big a deal as if she does it in 2 weeks time in Indian Wells?
Yes, yes, yes and yes, well at least as big a points deal.
The points are clear ( and to me all '1000' events now giving 1000 points to the winner as distinct to a mixture of 1000 and 900 is clearer ). Life indeed looked to be getting simpler before all the recently belatedly introduced WTA 2024 rule changes effecting mandatory appearances and points which has left a lot of folk very confused ).
The actual points on offer though are clear, there to be won, and up to the players. And there have been plenty surprise winners and finalists in the arguably higher status events, thus also leaping up the rankings, whatever possible variation in players' focus and efforts - even in the 2000 points Slams, eg. Radacanu vs Fernandez.

Mmm. I know theyre worth a thousand points and all are regarded equally from that perspective but should they be worth a thousand? Or should the tours have a points tally that is say 1500 and call the events 1500s, for the bigger deal ones? Or have less 1000 events and downgrade the not up to the level events to a 500?

im not sure - just know qatar feels a bit, so what. Whereas IW in 2 weeks feels like a much bigger thing.

the addict · Tennis legend

I think Indian Wells and Miami come over as bigger not only because they are joint ATP/WTA tournaments but also they have a bigger draw (96 as opposed to 56) and they are played over 14 days instead of 10 days (including qualifying). So if the "lesser" WTA1000 events are to be considered equal then the size of the draws and duration should be changed.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Yeah, agreed. Im not saying have 1000s and give them 900 points, that made no sense. Im saying the Dubai event or wuhan or Guadalajara or whatever arent worth a 1000, not really. They should make them bigger events, which I guess they are trying to do with some, or downgrade these to 500s or some such. But it doesnt carry it for me as an equal to the bigger 1000 events.