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RE: Billie Jean King Cup Play-offs - GB vs Mexico 16-17th April 2021


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RedSquirrel wrote:

Almost.

Finals week
2 Finalists and next years host nation: automatically qualify for next years finals week
Pos 3 to 12, excluding next years host nation and next years wild card: qualify for next years qualifiers

Qualifiers
8 winning qualifiers: progress to current years finals week
8 losing qualifiers: play in current years play offs

Play offs
8 play-off winners: play in next years qualifiers
8 play-off losers: relegated to Group I regions

Regions
8 Group I region winners (4 Europe, 2 Asia/Oceania, 2 Americas) promoted to current years play-offs

-- Edited by RedSquirrel on Sunday 18th of April 2021 07:54:59 AM


 Ok, cool. So if positions 3 to 12 ( ie 9 or 10 teams depending on hosts for next season , if they go into next years qualifiers, how do the 8 winners of the play offs make that into 16 teams? Itll be 17 or 18? I get the structure, just struggled with the maths !? 



 


I wondered that too. Finals week includes one country selected as a WC so I assume to balance things out in the qualifiers that they'll pick one of those nations to be the WC. If a finalist would also qualify as host nation then there will be an additional WC for finals week.


 Any chance of GB getting the WC?




Not a chance. Only countries with a player ranked in the top 10 in the singles rankings immediately following Wimbledon in the year before finals week are eligible.

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Katie S says on Instagram that she can't wait to be competing agsin soon. Is she on any entry lists and how fit was she to even play this tie if needed???

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flamingowings wrote:

Katie S says on Instagram that she can't wait to be competing agsin soon. Is she on any entry lists and how fit was she to even play this tie if needed???


 Yes, she's on entry lists for US clay court tournaments, starting 26th April and 3rd May



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Katie S says on Instagram that she can't wait to be competing again soon. Is she on any entry lists and how fit was she to even play this tie if needed???


 I wondered for a minute about her fitness as well given the way it was phrased but she seemed ok in the clips practising with the rest of the team during the week.



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dodrade wrote:
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Katie S says on Instagram that she can't wait to be competing again soon. Is she on any entry lists and how fit was she to even play this tie if needed???


 I wondered for a minute about her fitness as well given the way it was phrased but she seemed ok in the clips practising with the rest of the team during the week.


 Thanks the addict, hopefully she is fit again and does well in these tournaments.

Dodrade - I'm glad it wasn't just me!! 



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The LTA were all over Billie Jean King in the lead up to the Mexico tie. I'd love it if the UK ended up somehow hosting it, and GB took over the host spot from Hungary, but whatever happens, I hope Hungary don't get to compete now. Fair enough if they were hosting it, but if not, they bring very little to the player - no current top 100 players (singles anyway), not too many top 250 either, and have been in the lower reaches for a while, and were just given their spot by hosting it, thus promoted a few levels.

Somewhere like Czech Rep or Spain would be decent among the countries already involved, USA even, but I hope they get something sorted soon.

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I find it staggering to see the money Hungary were putting up for it apparently, where was that supposed to come from, and to what benefit? Yes I hope it shifts to the Czech Republic, would be a good one and maybe a chance for Barbara Strycova who announced her retirement today to say bye to some fans?

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Its been moved because of Covid, Hungary said it couldnt host and as
It has the highest morbidity level in the world , cant say I disagree. Czechia 2nd , so not sure it would be a sensible option?

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JonH comes home wrote:

Its been moved because of Covid, Hungary said it couldnt host and as
It has the highest morbidity level in the world , cant say I disagree. Czechia 2nd , so not sure it would be a sensible option?


 This seems a bit of a strange argument from Hungary, because if i am not mistaken they are still a host city for the Euro 2020 which is happening this summer.  And by all accounts they have committed to a full capacity stadium of ca 67,000. 

So footie in June, with 3 group games and a last 16 match means potentially 260,000 fans across the 4 games which they believe they can manage, but tennis (in November?) with a 12,500 stadium capacity is too risky. Hmmm....seems a tad fishy. confuse

 



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It is true though that in the official covid death figures Hungary has the worst ratio to population figure in the world overall and for each of the individual last 6 weeks, at a weekly rate of continually over 100 deaths per million. The UK has only reached that sort of level at its very peak and last week's UK figure was just under 2 deaths per million ( 132 deaths in all ), and we're still taking things steadily. Much of eastern Europe has been bad in their latest wave with Hungary particularly bad.

I can't imagine how Budapest can commit to anything like a full stadium for the Euros. Dublin and Bilbao, in evidently much better positions, couldn't even agree to the minimum UEFA covid threshold. 



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 5th of May 2021 06:20:52 PM

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i know its crazy isn't it. But according to the UEFA website that's the current plan....

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As you mentioned, UEFA required every potential host to confirm they would be able to host spectators.  Those who couldn't (Dublin and Bilbao) were dropped.  Most went for 25-30% capacity, but for some reason Hungary went for 100% (perhaps they were scared they would lose their games??). It could be they plan to walk back on that commitment in the run up to the games, but i can't imagine that would go down well with the men in suits. 

Maybe its the cynic in me, but it seems far more plausible that they couldn't come up with the prize money for the BJK cup finals and needed a way to back out.

 



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Ace Ventura wrote:

The LTA were all over Billie Jean King in the lead up to the Mexico tie. I'd love it if the UK ended up somehow hosting it, and GB took over the host spot from Hungary, but whatever happens, I hope Hungary don't get to compete now. Fair enough if they were hosting it, but if not, they bring very little to the player - no current top 100 players (singles anyway), not too many top 250 either, and have been in the lower reaches for a while, and were just given their spot by hosting it, thus promoted a few levels.

Somewhere like Czech Rep or Spain would be decent among the countries already involved, USA even, but I hope they get something sorted soon.


 How big a venue would be needed? Presumably something larger than the Copper Box?



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JonH comes home wrote:

Its been moved because of Covid, Hungary said it couldnt host and as
It has the highest morbidity level in the world , cant say I disagree. Czechia 2nd , so not sure it would be a sensible option?


 This seems a bit of a strange argument from Hungary, because if i am not mistaken they are still a host city for the Euro 2020 which is happening this summer.  And by all accounts they have committed to a full capacity stadium of ca 67,000. 

So footie in June, with 3 group games and a last 16 match means potentially 260,000 fans across the 4 games which they believe they can manage, but tennis (in November?) with a 12,500 stadium capacity is too risky. Hmmm....seems a tad fishy. confuse

 




I think something may have been lost in translation. A more plausible explanation would be that they weren't able to hold in on the planned date on safety grounds and the arena has no other suitable dates available this year. There isn't any space in the tennis calendar to hold it before the US Open and looking at the Arena's events there isn't a gap big enough after the USO to hold a week long event plus the days needed to set up and make available for practice.

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The Billie Jean King Cup has got no publicity in this country apart from an interview with David Haggerty(President of the ITF) in the Telegraph which mainly related to Emma. Many of the top players are missing and sometimes  teams contain players who would not get into main GS draws. However my attention was drawn to the tie when Slovakia (who stopped  us playing in Prague ) beat a decidedly understrength US team. Playing in the doubles for Slovakia was Tereza Mihailova. This was the player who defeated Katie Swan to win the 2015 Australian Junior Championships. She's never reached the top 300 in singles but is near the top 100 in doubles. 



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