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The road to the 2020 French Open


Not really hugely important, but a change in the QWC as Ponchet seemingly is now a direct entrant:

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Chez les dames, Jessika Ponchet (WC Race WTA) étant rentrée dans les qualifications grâce à son classement et afin de respecter le règlement de la Race WTA, la WC est attribuée à Irina Ramialison.

(The same thing, I believe, has happened with the men, with the new qwc going to Rayane Roumane, as Hugo Grenier is now a direct entrant)

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All useful info CD, even if you did end up going off topic biggrin

Andreescu has now withdrawn. Never really a surprise, but she's likely to go through all of 2020 without hitting a ball in an official match. Such a shame when you have a player of that talent. Hopefully she'll be back strong in Aus.



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Ace Ventura wrote:

Spiceboy has provided a few more updates over on TF, and at the moment, #232 (at the time) Mrdeza is the final Q entrant, so Naiktha definitely not involved. The next 10 Q alts are Jakupovic, Ce, Galfi, Baptiste, Liu, Satralova (formerly Allertova), Gerlach, Ivakhnenko, Okamura, and Zakharova (#245).

I wonder if Naiktha is regretting not being in / coming to Europe during this period? I see on Tennisexplorer.com she has played 13 echo matches in the Covid era, but she's been restricted to Brisbane/Queensland based players, so has only actually played 4 or 5 different player in that time, and has played some of them 3 times. She could have been in the first BT event, Progress Tour, BOTB II, could have given SGH a go one week, possibly qualified for the Classic Week, and then would have been in Europe for that Prague 128 event, a few other ITF events, especially the W60 an W80 in France, and then of course RG quals. Seems a bit of a shame to have been restricted to playing the likes of Da Silva Fick 3 times, but then I guess plans do go out of the window in these times, and she may generally just be happy / safe enough staying in Aus.

Fellow Aus players Cabrera and Inglis (who Naiktha has played both as part of her 13) went to the US and are now both in France, so it wouldn't have been a case of being travel restricted.


 AFAIK most Australian states have closed their borders which is why she hasn't played outside Queensland. Australia are also restricting returnees so if she went to Europe she might not get back in for a while.



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dodrade wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:

Spiceboy has provided a few more updates over on TF, and at the moment, #232 (at the time) Mrdeza is the final Q entrant, so Naiktha definitely not involved. The next 10 Q alts are Jakupovic, Ce, Galfi, Baptiste, Liu, Satralova (formerly Allertova), Gerlach, Ivakhnenko, Okamura, and Zakharova (#245).

I wonder if Naiktha is regretting not being in / coming to Europe during this period? I see on Tennisexplorer.com she has played 13 echo matches in the Covid era, but she's been restricted to Brisbane/Queensland based players, so has only actually played 4 or 5 different player in that time, and has played some of them 3 times. She could have been in the first BT event, Progress Tour, BOTB II, could have given SGH a go one week, possibly qualified for the Classic Week, and then would have been in Europe for that Prague 128 event, a few other ITF events, especially the W60 an W80 in France, and then of course RG quals. Seems a bit of a shame to have been restricted to playing the likes of Da Silva Fick 3 times, but then I guess plans do go out of the window in these times, and she may generally just be happy / safe enough staying in Aus.

Fellow Aus players Cabrera and Inglis (who Naiktha has played both as part of her 13) went to the US and are now both in France, so it wouldn't have been a case of being travel restricted.


 AFAIK most Australian states have closed their borders which is why she hasn't played outside Queensland. Australia are also restricting returnees so if she went to Europe she might not get back in for a while.


Yeah, I knew about the Aus state borders and those restrictions, but there's a lot of Aussies who have played in Australia during June and July, so presumably generally Aus based, but have since moved on to other continents to play. Those 2 I mentioned earlier, also Perez and Sanders, and even Ivana Popovic, who unlike the other 4 isn't in grand slam contention (singles or doubles), but played a UTR in Aus in July and then popped up in that Prague 128 event a few weeks ago, so other players are managing to do it, so it must be possible, and she would have received pretty significant money just for showing up in Prague and Paris, even if she lost 0-6 0-6 both times.

As I say, you obviously can't blame players for not wanting to travel, or play, in this period, and it may end up proving more hassle than it was worth for some of the other Aus players I have mentioned, and I don't know all their backgrounds and personal arrangements, but it is a shame to miss out on a slam if you're not injured. She hasn't played (a proper match) since February, has won only 2 ITF matches all year, so it's effectively a year written off, and the more other circa 240/250 players continue to play, the more chance they'll pass Naiktha, threatening her place in the AO quals (assuming it goes ahead).



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Ace Ventura wrote:
dodrade wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:

Spiceboy has provided a few more updates over on TF, and at the moment, #232 (at the time) Mrdeza is the final Q entrant, so Naiktha definitely not involved. The next 10 Q alts are Jakupovic, Ce, Galfi, Baptiste, Liu, Satralova (formerly Allertova), Gerlach, Ivakhnenko, Okamura, and Zakharova (#245).

I wonder if Naiktha is regretting not being in / coming to Europe during this period? I see on Tennisexplorer.com she has played 13 echo matches in the Covid era, but she's been restricted to Brisbane/Queensland based players, so has only actually played 4 or 5 different player in that time, and has played some of them 3 times. She could have been in the first BT event, Progress Tour, BOTB II, could have given SGH a go one week, possibly qualified for the Classic Week, and then would have been in Europe for that Prague 128 event, a few other ITF events, especially the W60 an W80 in France, and then of course RG quals. Seems a bit of a shame to have been restricted to playing the likes of Da Silva Fick 3 times, but then I guess plans do go out of the window in these times, and she may generally just be happy / safe enough staying in Aus.

Fellow Aus players Cabrera and Inglis (who Naiktha has played both as part of her 13) went to the US and are now both in France, so it wouldn't have been a case of being travel restricted.


 AFAIK most Australian states have closed their borders which is why she hasn't played outside Queensland. Australia are also restricting returnees so if she went to Europe she might not get back in for a while.


Yeah, I knew about the Aus state borders and those restrictions, but there's a lot of Aussies who have played in Australia during June and July, so presumably generally Aus based, but have since moved on to other continents to play. Those 2 I mentioned earlier, also Perez and Sanders, and even Ivana Popovic, who unlike the other 4 isn't in grand slam contention (singles or doubles), but played a UTR in Aus in July and then popped up in that Prague 128 event a few weeks ago, so other players are managing to do it, so it must be possible, and she would have received pretty significant money just for showing up in Prague and Paris, even if she lost 0-6 0-6 both times.

As I say, you obviously can't blame players for not wanting to travel, or play, in this period, and it may end up proving more hassle than it was worth for some of the other Aus players I have mentioned, and I don't know all their backgrounds and personal arrangements, but it is a shame to miss out on a slam if you're not injured. She hasn't played (a proper match) since February, has won only 2 ITF matches all year, so it's effectively a year written off, and the more other circa 240/250 players continue to play, the more chance they'll pass Naiktha, threatening her place in the AO quals (assuming it goes ahead).


Would she still be considered Australian enough to get a Qualifying wildcard?

Presumably the LTA have kept in touch with her throughout and offered support. Katie Swan came back from Kansas only to immediately get injured.

 



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The players are saying that the system is ultra strict at RG at the moment, but actually very well run (especially compared with the ITF events, supposedly, which are pretty lax).

At Roland Garros itself, two outside courts have been turned into a big testing facility, the whole place has been completely disinfected, everyone is confined to one of two hotels. You get tested on arrival and then 24 hours complete isolation while you wait for the results. After that, if negative, self-isolation is required except for training and eating. Re-tested every 5 days, I believe. They're strongly advised to be one to a room, although two per room is allowed (if you share with someone who tests positive, you're excluded too). The players say they're getting used to it, it's just a question of habit - and it's all sweetened by the fact that the first round losers in qualis receive EUR 10,000 this year (up from 7k last), with 16k for QR2 (as opposed to 12.5k).

However, presumably Sam had the exemption/special sped up version which is allowed for players still in the draw at another event?

Harriet (plus Jay and Liam), I presume, are just there and getting on with things.....



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With Halep beating Muguruza in the Rome SF, Jo will remain WR 13 in the post Rome rankings.

So, whether or not the rankings are held back to include the full Rome results, with Barty, Osaka and Andreesu absent from RG, Jo will be in the 9-12 seeds.

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I see the men's Q draw has been released with them starting tomorrow. The French still do the 128 men and 96 women Q draws, so the women's won't start until Tuesday, with Harriet and Sam finding out their respective paths around this time tomorrow.

I think I'd happily take a Watson-Konta USO type scenario here.

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I see the men's Q draw has been released with them starting tomorrow. The French still do the 128 men and 96 women Q draws, so the women's won't start until Tuesday, with Harriet and Sam finding out their respective paths around this time tomorrow.

I think I'd happily take a Watson-Konta USO type scenario here.


 As far as a Heather-Jo meeting at some stage it's a long time ago when 2 British ladies played against in other in Paris.It was back in 1986 when Anne Hobbs beat Jo Durie in the 1st round and in 1985 Virginia Wade beat Sara Gomer in the 1st round. Jo is the last Briton to qualify in 2015. Heather has usually managed to get through one round in Paris. The only other British woman to win a round in Paris in the 21st century is the late Elena Baltacha in 2011 who beat Sloane Stephens.The last Briton to win a match in Paris before that was Clare Wood in 1994 beating that years Wimbledon semi finalist Gigi Fernandez.Great expectations it is not excluding 1983(JoDurie) and 2019.. 



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I was meaning Sam and Harriet meeting in Q1 to guarantee a GB qual victory given their clay form coming into this, but thanks for the additional info.

I'd rather Heather and Jo didn't meet in the actual main draw.


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Ace Ventura wrote:

I see the men's Q draw has been released with them starting tomorrow. The French still do the 128 men and 96 women Q draws, so the women's won't start until Tuesday, with Harriet and Sam finding out their respective paths around this time tomorrow.

I think I'd happily take a Watson-Konta USO type scenario here.


 As far as a Heather-Jo meeting at some stage it's a long time ago when 2 British ladies played against in other in Paris.It was back in 1986 when Anne Hobbs beat Jo Durie in the 1st round and in 1985 Virginia Wade beat Sara Gomer in the 1st round. Jo is the last Briton to qualify in 2015. Heather has usually managed to get through one round in Paris. The only other British woman to win a round in Paris in the 21st century is the late Elena Baltacha in 2011 who beat Sloane Stephens.The last Briton to win a match in Paris before that was Clare Wood in 1994 beating that years Wimbledon semi finalist Gigi Fernandez.Great expectations it is not excluding 1983(JoDurie) and 2019.. 


 

We've had some near misses. Anne should have beat Dolonc, Katie really blew a great opportunity against Craybas, and Mel South was involved in a titanic tussle with Larcher De Brito.

 

As you say, Heather actually has a fairly good record here.



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Four men seemingly confirmed as withdrawn from the quali list for testing positive. Supposedly, there are 11 more players concerned, including some of the female players.

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Ace Ventura wrote:

I was meaning Sam and Harriet meeting in Q1 to guarantee a GB qual victory given their clay form coming into this, but thanks for the additional info.

I'd rather Heather and Jo didn't meet in the actual main draw.


 Unfortunately I missed the point, I was thinking about the main draw. The qualifying tends to mirror the main draw with Jo qualifying in 2015 , Heather managing it on several occasions and Laura getting in as a lucky loser on one occasion.  It would be long odds if they met again in Paris. 



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ROSAMUND wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:

I was meaning Sam and Harriet meeting in Q1 to guarantee a GB qual victory given their clay form coming into this, but thanks for the additional info.

I'd rather Heather and Jo didn't meet in the actual main draw.


 Unfortunately I missed the point, I was thinking about the main draw. The qualifying tends to mirror the main draw with Jo qualifying in 2015 , Heather managing it on several occasions and Laura getting in as a lucky loser on one occasion.  It would be long odds if they met again in Paris. 


 Well it is 2020 so it wouldn't surprise me if it did happen!!



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I like the fact that the biggest challenge the players have had in the last few days is how to manage to spend all their daily allowance !

Sventennis tweet:

"The salad bar is first class and the players do have a PerDiem of 120 euro a day. Due to the early closure of restaurant after 4 pm the line (without the social required distance) at the coffee bar is massive as players tend to empty their daily allowance!"

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