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Coup Droit wrote:

And the people at AZ, say, who have made an excellent (if not quite perfect) vaccine, and sold it at cost without a penny profit, and got completely slated, should have a medal and a place in heaven


 I just did not understand this. AZ arent making a killing from the vaccine, unlike those selling the RNA vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna, Biontech) yet received really bad press. it really is a messed up world hmm

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-moderna-turn-up-covid-19-vaccine-prices-europe-as-companies-plot-deliveries-into-2022

 

 



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Sunday 15th of August 2021 03:18:51 PM

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After reaching the height of new UK cases a few weeks ago and then coming signigicantly down we seem to have for now plateaued at quite a high level wirh deaths beginning to plateau too as we have come down from the previous higher new case level.

Week 17/07 - 23/07 : 305,649 new cases, 402 deaths
Week 24/07 - 30/07 : 195,483 new cases, 503 deaths
Week 31/07 - 06/08 : 183,259 new cases, 593 deaths
Week 07/08 - 13/08 : 198,156* new cases, 623 deaths

With so much having been relaxed ( too much re such an effective component as face coverings in England IMO, particularly with the Delta strain being so much more transmittable - Johnson I feel knew they were wrong but wouldn't do the necessary complete u-turn and continue to make it mandatory in certain situations ) vaccine take up would seem to me soo important for having a much more reductive effect on such still high figures ( even with these numbers of vaccinated people still catching covid, it will reduce the numbers and partucularly the seriousness ) . And surely everyone who reasonably can be expected to take the vaccine should do so. It is simply not good enough for others to hope for a more normal life but to not take the vaccine themselves, but hope to live off the coattails of these who do take the vaccine.

* the last week in particular will come down a bit with follow up negative PCR tests. 



-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 14th of August 2021 11:36:43 PM



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Headline on local French Newspaper:

"Young woman, aged 25, deplores how feelings about vaccine status have divided families and how her in-laws won't have her round to Sunday lunch any more"

To which I assume - before reading on - that she's against the vaccine and her in-laws won't see her.

But, no. She's had covid, badly. Heart and thyroid problems. Is now on drugs for life. A few months after, she had her vaccines, as per doctor's advice.

Her in-laws are dead set against the vaccine.

So I assume they won't see her now as a matter of principle, because they don't agree with her.

But no - they won't see her because they're afraid she will 'infect them with the vaccine'.

I despair.....

(The French anti-vaxxers are truly off the scale ...... this is just one story.... )

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NZ is in a level 4 lockdown from 11.59pm tonight for 3 days (7 days for Auckland and Coromandal) due to an unlinked community case, assumed to be delta.

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-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 21st of August 2021 12:09:20 PM

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So, hard to believe it is a year since my daughter went to University and then came home again very quickly as Covid devastated the student population.

She sets off back again in around 3 weeks - Edinburgh, but with a change of halls to self catering to start year 1 again. Renewed optimism and a year older, she seems much more confident. She has worked a lot the past 12 months and earned a lot of money for a 19 year old, she has decent savings behind her. The self catering (she is in a flat of 10 with a kitchen and shared lounge etc) will work better for meeting people than catered halls, we feel. She had tried to transfer to Economics (from Geography) for this new start but, despite getting the grades (she had 3 A grades in the bag) this years process has caused massive grade inflation and over subscribed entries from the new cohort, so her transfer has been declined. Nonetheless, she has taken that in her stride with a shrug.

She now heads off to Croatia for a week with a friend hostelling, tomorrow, something she would never have done a year ago - maybe she is more ready to go this year. Still a little anxious but more positive and sanguine.

And with her off to Croatia for a week, my wife and I get a 5 day trip to London and then Bath to give us a little time away - dog nicely into a welcoming home for a few days as well!

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That's super to hear about your daughter Jon! I think the enforced gap year can only do her good in the long run and we shouldn't be so quick to start university or working careers. Hope she has a wonderful holiday in Croatia and that you and your wife enjoy London/Bath!

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Nice to hear good news! All the best to your daughter!
And have a good break yourselves.

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Thank you FW and Jan. yes, feeling good currently ! Cant believe where a year has gone though, crazy.

As an aside, My wife does shopping and other support to a lady nearby. Marjory. Community support through lockdown that many folks in here Im sure get involved in. Marjory was 97 when this started, was 98 and then 99 in April and now shes organising her 100th birthday for next April. Crazy. Shes as bright as a button; only gets out of her flat once a week though; never complains though, lives completely independently. No warden, or care, etc . Smartest lady I ever met and survived through this and seems stronger.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-politics-58336171

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Numbers are huge in Scotland - I believe as Schools have started, it is spreading through schools like wildfire.

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paulisi wrote:

Numbers are huge in Scotland - I believe as Schools have started, it is spreading through schools like wildfire.


Yep, part of it as schools returning appears to have accelerated already rising new case numbers since restrictions eased 

Total reported new cases in week to Friday 06/08 :  7765 - then pro rata well below the UK wide figure.

Total in week to 13/08 : 9068 - again pro rata well below the UK wide figure. 

Total in week to 20/08 : 15778 - then pro rata still slightly less than the UK wide figure - schools generally returned during this week. 

Total in just 5 days to 25/08 : 19165 ( including 5021 reported yesterday ) - has now pro rata moved above UK wide figure. 

Our hospital cases are starting to rise a bit, having been coming steadily down. Deaths still coming down ( 53, 46, 38 in the last 3 full weeks). But these time lag figures will be being watched.



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 26th of August 2021 12:35:27 PM



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paulisi wrote:

Numbers are huge in Scotland - I believe as Schools have started, it is spreading through schools like wildfire.


 IMO because of the rapid relaxation of rules - especially mask wearing and social distancing, most people whether vaccinated or not are going to get Corona if they are going about their everyday lives in the same way as they did pre-Corona. 

Not long until the Schools and Unis in England go back.



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indiana wrote:
paulisi wrote:

Numbers are huge in Scotland - I believe as Schools have started, it is spreading through schools like wildfire.


Yep, part of it as schools returning appears to have accelerated already rising new case numbers since restrictions eased 

Total reported new cases in week to Friday 06/08 :  7765 - then pro rata well below the UK wide figure.

Total in week to 13/08 : 9068 - again pro rata well below the UK wide figure. 

Total in week to 20/08 : 15778 - then pro rata still slightly less than the UK wide figure - schools generally returned during this week. 

Total in just 5 days to 25/08 : 19165 ( including 5021 reported yesterday ) - has now pro rata moved above UK wide figure. 

Our hospital cases are starting to rise a bit, having been coming steadily down. Deaths still coming down ( 53, 46, 38 in the last 3 full weeks). But these time lag figures will be being watched.



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 26th of August 2021 12:35:27 PM


Up and up soar new cases in Scotland.

Total in full week to 27/08 : 30907 ( 566 per 100K ), nearly double last week's new cases, including a record 6835 reported today alone.

Covid cases reported today to be in hospital 479. Last Friday that was 312.



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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
paulisi wrote:

Numbers are huge in Scotland - I believe as Schools have started, it is spreading through schools like wildfire.


Yep, part of it as schools returning appears to have accelerated already rising new case numbers since restrictions eased 

Total reported new cases in week to Friday 06/08 :  7765 - then pro rata well below the UK wide figure.

Total in week to 13/08 : 9068 - again pro rata well below the UK wide figure. 

Total in week to 20/08 : 15778 - then pro rata still slightly less than the UK wide figure - schools generally returned during this week. 

Total in just 5 days to 25/08 : 19165 ( including 5021 reported yesterday ) - has now pro rata moved above UK wide figure. 

Our hospital cases are starting to rise a bit, having been coming steadily down. Deaths still coming down ( 53, 46, 38 in the last 3 full weeks). But these time lag figures will be being watched.



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 26th of August 2021 12:35:27 PM


Up and up soar new cases in Scotland.

Total in full week to 27/08 : 30907 ( 566 per 100K ), nearly double last week's new cases, including a record 6835 reported today alone.

Covid cases reported today to be in hospital 479. Last Friday that was 312.


Data from Public Health England suggest that being double vaccinated reduces the risk of hospital admission with the now-dominant delta variant by around 96%. Even conservatively assuming the vaccines are no more effective at preventing death than hospital admission (actually, they are likely to be more effective at preventing death) this means the risk of death for double vaccinated people has been cut to less than one-twentieth of the value for unvaccinated people with the same underlying risk profile.

So, while its sobering to see cases occurring in double vaccinated people, the protection the vaccine affords (as judged by numbers of hospital admissions and fatalities relative to what might have been ) means if you,re not double vaccinated, you should be!

All my quote marks will disappear, so italics instead 

https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1960



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 27th of August 2021 04:50:29 PM

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