Coronavirus - general, non tennis related

Strongbow · All-time great

RE: Coronavirus - general, non tennis related

indiana · Tennis legend

42,307 initially reported UK new cases today. 49 reported deaths ( after 50 yesterday, which on its own could have been looked at as more of a weekend catch-up ) so in 5 days not far off last week's total deaths. Our new cases must be up there as at least close to the highest per capita in the world. Less serious overall consequences than before with the vaccine roll-out but serious enough with the hospital and death figures continuing to climb.

I see Boris now seems to be virtually begging folk to wear face coverings at times though not officially changing the personal responsibility nonsense ( it's blindingly obvious that there are far too many irresponsible folk, putting the vulnerable in particular at increased risk ). It's a balancing act but the medical profession seems fairly unanimously appalled at not keeping more rules in place. Some hospital trusts are already in trouble again.

Scarey !

London at least has joined Scotland and Wales regarding face. coverings on public transport.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
42,307 initially reported UK new cases today. 49 reported deaths ( after 50 yesterday, which on its own could have been looked at as more of a weekend catch-up ) so in 5 days not far off last week's total deaths. Our new cases must be up there as at least close to the highest per capita in the world. Less serious overall consequences than before with the vaccine roll-out but serious enough with the hospital and death figures continuing to climb.

I see Boris now seems to be virtually begging folk to wear face coverings at times though not officially changing the personal responsibility nonsense ( it's blindingly obvious that there are far too many irresponsible folk, putting the vulnerable in particular at increased risk ). It's a balancibg act but the medical profession seems fairly unanimously appalled at not keeping more rules in place. Some hospital trusts are already in trouble again.

Scarey !

London at least has joined Scotlahd abd Wales regarding face. coverings on public transport.

It is worrying. I noticed that Waterstones had stated they they would be asking people to wear face masks in their shops but, I think, it wasnt a requirement, just an "ask", which I would fully support and comply with (I will not go into any shop without a mask, stop). And they had got quite a lot of backlash, a Talk Radio DJ (female, not sure of name) has said she wont shop there if they implement that, how stupid of her.

Also, a personal anecdote. My daughter works at a restaurant in town as a waitress. Quite a big organisation. She went down with symptoms last Saturday (10 days back) and we all went for a PCR test and she was positive. We have all isolated. Daughter rang her work the same day to say what happened and that she is certain she caught it at the Cafe. The HR lady wouldnt hear of it - we have policies in place, there is no way it could have happened, and assuming my daughter hadnt breached rules (implying that would be a grave offence) then there is no way anyone could have caught it off her; end of, no need to inform anyone, "you did follow rules didnt you". She was a ) frightened of repercussions (her view is that between staff and customers, rules are flouted often b) livid with them c) is quite happy to give up her job in due course (ie when she goes back to University in September).

Not good

Elegant Point · Satellite level

Cases are definitely on the increase in schools and some secondary schools are starting the summer break early. I know of several double vaccinated parents with school age children where the whole family have tested positive in the last week. One of the parents said it felt like she had a really bad case of flu. They didnt know which strain they had.

BoJo needs to have a rethink about mask wearing - I will definitely be wearing one in shops and other crowded public spaces until I am satisfied the virus is under control. I know plenty of others who concur with this.

#Followthescience

paulisi · Tennis legend

Yes - it is definitely flowing via kids and into families and I know quite a few people who despite being double jabbed have caught it.

indiana · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
[...]
New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...]
Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.
26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (227.34), 123
And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.
03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths
* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures.

Up and up ...

10/07 - 16/07 : 274,066* (401.49 per 100K), 277 deaths

Some areas such as Scotland, where new cases have been falling for the last 3 weeks and last week were under 300 per 100K, with hospitalisations lately falling also, are improving for now but the overall UK (English led) figures continue to get markedly worse. Tomorrow's full English changes are a dangerous farce IMHO.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 23rd of July 2021 04:46:31 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
[...]
New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...]
Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.
26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (237.34), 123
And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.
03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths
* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures.
Up and up ...
10/07 - 16/07 : 274,577* (402.27 per 100K), 277 deaths
Some areas such as Scotland, where new cases have been falling for the last 3 weeks and last week were under 300 per 100K, with hospitalisations lately falling also, are improving for now but the overall UK (English led) figures continue to get markedly worse. Tomorrow's full English changes are a dangerous farce IMHO.

Yep. but they wont stop. Its now full steam to oblivion city

paulisi · Tennis legend

I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.

Sorry, duplicate

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 19th of July 2021 10:46:54 AM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.

It doesn't really matter what the official figures are if they only go down because a swathe of people are no longer getting tested.

The key figures will be the hospitalization ones as those will be real.

Positivity rates are also important, and give a truer reflection. Liverpool has gone from 11.5% 10 days ago, to 12.5% a few days ago, to 13.1% yesterday. That's a rapid rise.

Elegant Point · Satellite level

One of our local pubs was closed on the hottest weekend of the year as the staff are all self isolating. The supermarket is also experiencing staff shortages for the same reason. This is before BoJos relax Monday hmm Businesses cant make money if they are forced to close and staff are again on the front line through no fault of their own.

At least peer pressure has forced BoJo to self isolate, all be it in the luxury surroundings of Chequers. #followthescience

paulisi · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
paulisi wrote:
I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.
It doesn't really matter what the official figures are if they only go down because a swathe of people are no longer getting tested.
The key figures will be the hospitalization ones as those will be real.
Positivity rates are also important, and give a truer reflection. Liverpool has gone from 11.5% 10 days ago, to 12.5% a few days ago, to 13.1% yesterday. That's a rapid rise.

The numbers remain constant in Liverpool, but you are correct about the positivity rates. I'm told from the test centre less people are coming in, but the rates of positivity are higher.

indiana · Tennis legend

It's now much about waiting to see how bad the hospitalisation and death figures need to get before further UK Government inconsistencies ( like today's pinged self isolating shambles ) and absolule u-turns.

And I feel some u-turns asap would be a very good idea.

Strongbow · All-time great

indiana wrote:
It's now much about waiting to see how bad the hospitalisation and death figures need to get before further UK Government inconsistencies ( like today's pinged self isolating shambles ) and absolule u-turns.

And I feel some u-turns asap would be a very good idea.

He's put his reputation on the line - Now that Billy Smart's is gone where could he go.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, rather frightening to be at the whim of Boris Johnson's reputation as against following the experts and in some instances sheer common sense.

The Labour Party really needs to get much stronger ( and less concern at annoying business? ) re some of the truths it needs to raise much louder. It is unhelpful that much of the real noise is coming from Ratbag Cummings who is producing his stream of no doubt mixture of truths, untrurhs and the full range in between.

Gee, I'm in Scotland and getting angry about the covid damage being done to folk in England. Though I guess yes a fair amount of concern about knock-on effects to us and how far Nicola Sturgeon and co are prepared to diverge ( at least our ongoing face coverings and distancing regulations on public transport and other enclosed spaces such as shops are current biggies ).

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 20th of July 2021 11:35:26 PM