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The Scottish Government has said that there is going to be an "ongoing need" for face coverings after 9th August when other restrictions are due to be rremoved in Scotland. Details are under review but are expected to include in shops and on public transport

The UK Communities Secretary, Robert Jenrick, told the BBC thar he would like to see the four nations "move as one" on the matter but he acknowledged that the picture was different across the UK.

Too right, these making policy for England are callous dangerous flamin' idiots. Not that he actually pointed to that!


IMO there have been many instances throughout the pandemic where governments led by women have made very sensible decisions based on science  that have saved lives.

 



-- Edited by Elegant Point on Friday 9th of July 2021 08:15:07 AM

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New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...] 


 Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.

26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (237.34), 123


 And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.

03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths 

* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures. 



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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:

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New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...] 


 Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.

26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (237.34), 123


 And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.

03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths 

* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures. 


 They're only fooling themseves. Once the hospital rate goes up they'll have to do something.

Vaccination works - but only so far.



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42,307 initially reported UK new cases today. 49 reported deaths ( after 50 yesterday, which on its own could have been looked at as more of a weekend catch-up ) so in 5 days not far off last week's total deaths. Our new cases must be up there as at least close to the highest per capita in the world. Less serious overall consequences than before with the vaccine roll-out but serious enough with the hospital and death figures continuing to climb.

I see Boris now seems to be virtually begging folk to wear face coverings at times though not officially changing the personal responsibility nonsense ( it's blindingly obvious that there are far too many irresponsible folk, putting the vulnerable in particular at increased risk ). It's a balancing act but the medical profession seems fairly unanimously appalled at not keeping more rules in place. Some hospital trusts are already in trouble again.

Scarey !

London at least has joined Scotland and Wales regarding face. coverings on public transport.



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indiana wrote:

42,307 initially reported UK new cases today. 49 reported deaths ( after 50 yesterday, which on its own could have been looked at as more of a weekend catch-up ) so in 5 days not far off last week's total deaths. Our new cases must be up there as at least close to the highest per capita in the world. Less serious overall consequences than before with the vaccine roll-out but serious enough with the hospital and death figures continuing to climb.

I see Boris now seems to be virtually begging folk to wear face coverings at times though not officially changing the personal responsibility nonsense ( it's blindingly obvious that there are far too many irresponsible folk, putting the vulnerable in particular at increased risk ). It's a balancibg act but the medical profession seems fairly unanimously appalled at not keeping more rules in place. Some hospital trusts are already in trouble again.

Scarey !

London at least has joined Scotlahd abd Wales regarding face. coverings on public transport.


 It is worrying. I noticed that Waterstones had stated they they would be asking people to wear face masks in their shops but, I think, it wasnt a requirement, just an "ask", which I would fully support and comply with (I will not go into any shop without a mask, stop). And they had got quite a lot of backlash, a Talk Radio DJ (female, not sure of name) has said she wont shop there if they implement that, how stupid of her.

Also, a personal anecdote. My daughter works at a restaurant in town as a waitress. Quite a big organisation. She went down with symptoms last Saturday (10 days back) and we all went for a PCR test and she was positive. We have all isolated. Daughter rang her work the same day to say what happened and that she is certain she caught it at the Cafe. The HR lady wouldnt hear of it - we have policies in place, there is no way it could have happened, and assuming my daughter hadnt breached rules (implying that would be a grave offence) then there is no way anyone could have caught it off her; end of, no need to inform anyone, "you did follow rules didnt you". She was a ) frightened of repercussions (her view is that between staff and customers, rules are flouted often b) livid with them c) is quite happy to give up her job in due course (ie when she goes back to University in September). 

 

Not good 

 



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Cases are definitely on the increase in schools and some secondary schools are starting the summer break early. I know of several double vaccinated parents with school age children where the whole family have tested positive in the last week. One of the parents said it felt like she had a really bad case of flu. They didnt know which strain they had.

BoJo needs to have a rethink about mask wearing - I will definitely be wearing one in shops and other crowded public spaces until I am satisfied the virus is under control. I know plenty of others who concur with this.

#Followthescience


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Yes - it is definitely flowing via kids and into families and I know quite a few people who despite being double jabbed have caught it.

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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:

[...] 

New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...] 


 Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.

26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (227.34), 123


 And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.

03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths 

* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures. 


Up and up ...

10/07 - 16/07 : 274,066* (401.49 per 100K), 277 deaths

Some areas such as Scotland, where new cases have been falling for the last 3 weeks and last week were under 300 per 100K, with hospitalisations lately falling also, are improving for now but the overall UK (English led) figures continue to get markedly worse. Tomorrow's full English changes are a dangerous farce IMHO. 



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 23rd of July 2021 04:46:31 PM

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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:

[...] 

New cases per week (per 100K), deaths in the week :

15/05 - 21/05: 16,743 (24.54), 42
22/05 - 28/05: 20,765 (30.44), 58
29/05 - 04/06: 29,028 (42.55), 55
05/06 - 11/06: 45,894 (67.27), 61
12/06 - 18/06: 61,181 (89.67), 72
19/06 - 25/06: 89,996 (131.87), 110

[...] 


 Up and up soar the UK weekly new covid cases.

26/06 - 02/07: 155,146 (237.34), 123


 And up more. Ah but the rate of increase is slowing say ministets. Still gone markedly up though with major relaxations imminent.

03/07- 09/07 : 202,879* (297.26 per 100K), 176 deaths 

* will come down a bit since nowadays any reported lateral flow positive followed by reported PCR negatives within 3 days is removed from the case figures. 


Up and up ...

10/07 - 16/07 : 274,577* (402.27 per 100K), 277 deaths

Some areas such as Scotland, where new cases have been falling for the last 3 weeks and last week were under 300 per 100K, with hospitalisations lately falling also, are improving for now but the overall UK (English led) figures continue to get markedly worse. Tomorrow's full English changes are a dangerous farce IMHO. 


 Yep.  but they wont stop. Its now full steam to oblivion city 



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I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.

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paulisi wrote:

I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.


 Sorry, duplicate 



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paulisi wrote:

I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.


 It doesn't really matter what the official figures are if they only go down because a swathe of people are no longer getting tested. 

The key figures will be the hospitalization ones as those will be real.

Positivity rates are also important, and give a truer reflection. Liverpool has gone from 11.5% 10 days ago, to 12.5% a few days ago, to 13.1% yesterday. That's a rapid rise. 



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One of our local pubs was closed on the hottest weekend of the year as the staff are all self isolating. The supermarket is also experiencing staff shortages for the same reason. This is before BoJos relax Monday hmm Businesses cant make money if they are forced to close and staff are again on the front line through no fault of their own. 

At least peer pressure has forced BoJo to self isolate, all be it in the luxury surroundings of Chequers. #followthescience 

 



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paulisi wrote:

I expect official numbers to start dropping in the next 10 days mainly due to school finishing and thus a large drop in daily tests.

Liverpool numbers seem to have peaked and are just starting to decline.


 It doesn't really matter what the official figures are if they only go down because a swathe of people are no longer getting tested. 

The key figures will be the hospitalization ones as those will be real.

Positivity rates are also important, and give a truer reflection. Liverpool has gone from 11.5% 10 days ago, to 12.5% a few days ago, to 13.1% yesterday. That's a rapid rise. 


 The numbers remain constant in Liverpool, but you are correct about the positivity rates. I'm told from the test centre less people are coming in, but the rates of positivity are higher.



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It's now much about waiting to see how bad the hospitalisation and death figures need to get before further UK Government inconsistencies ( like today's pinged self isolating shambles ) and absolule u-turns.

And I feel some u-turns asap would be a very good idea.



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