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RE: Epic Matches


JonH comes home wrote:
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My favourite epic matches would be on no-one else's list I am sure. Having gone to Wimbledon every year since 1977, a lot of my favourite matches have come on the outside courts. All my favourite matches have been those I have seen live - TV can never replicate the excitement of live tennis for me, nor can it in any of the other sports I love.

Stumbling across Anna Kournikova's first ever Wimbledon match on one of the park bench courts would be one highlight, Karen Cross nearly beating Iva Majoli to make the 4th round of the singles on the old Court 2, and most of Jana Novotna's see saw matches, when she got ahead, choked and got over the line, would be other highlights. In the early days I was also a big fan of Tom Okker, The Flying Dutchman, who always gave everything, and watching him leap and go for absolutely everything was always very special - the year he made the semis unseeded and I saw most of his matches was brilliant. He was a Wimbledon darling for sure, but you couldn't help but love his guts and determination never to give up.

Three matches though stand out above all others for me. My third best ever match would be Arantxa Rus demolishing the defending Wimbledon champion Sam Stosur in the first round on Centre - Rus was phenomenal that day, and I thought I was witnessing the dawn of a new superstar and was surprised when the career explosion I was expecting failed to materialise. It was a privilege to see that match, and on Centre, only Maria Sharapova in the year she won would come close in terms of the best matches I have seen there.

My second favourite ever match has to be Larissa Neiland (nee Savchenko) the Russian doubles specialist, who again on the old Court 2 lobbed and chipped a fat and slow looking Lindsay Davenport in the finest display of placement and touch I have ever seen - Davenport was a top 3 seed and Neiland considered a no hoper and merely a doubles specialist - in the end you could see Lindsay visibly not knowing where to put herself on court - when she stayed back, little drop shots came over and when she came forward she was passed and lobbed. No-one in the crowd saw that result coming or the performance, but it was amazing; Neiland used all her doubles skills to spectacular effect. Later in the tournament (4th round) she appeared to deliberately throw the match losing 6-0 6-0 in about 40 minutes, probably wanting to concentrate on the doubles, but it was shocking, and the crazy thing is that if maybe she had believed a bit more in her singles ability that year, maybe she could have actually reached the semis.

My favourite match ever was Yayuk Basuki, an Indonesian unseeded player who made the semis that year and came up against Natalie Tauziat, a low seed on the old Court Three - it was the opening match of the day and the most partisan crowd I have ever seen - virtually everyone watching was French, with only two of us (both Brits) supporting Yayuk - even Yayuk's double faults were cheered by the boisterous French fans. The match was a really long three setter, with both players having numerous match points at the end of the third set, and when Yayuk finally won the match, there was almost complete silence, with just the two Brits cheering. It was such a cliffhanger of a match, and I was so proud of Yayuk for coping uncomplainingly with the partisan crowd and then getting the ultimate come back by beating the French favourite. I will never forget the silence at the end of the match - over a thousand people probably watching and only a handful even bothering a single clap.

Wonder what Yayuk is doing now?


 She married her coach, had a child, now aged 21, and 6 years ago became an Indonesian mp and sits on their sports commission , so wiki tells me!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yayuk_Basuki


 Okker of course was also a  stellar doubles player with Marty riessen and wojtek fibak.  

 

I was reading Okkers list of singles titles and it includes a grass court grand prix title in Leicester! That's like at atp 250 - where in leicester would that have been staged!!



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Looking back, many of my tennis memories seem to link to the old wimbledon court 1. What a great court, cramped, that steep bank of seats on one side, the dark, covered area opposite. Lots of matches went late and dark. 1976, gb played italy in davis cup, the lloyd brothers won an tumultuous double over Panatta and bertolucci, 4th set was 18-16. My first wimbledon visit was 1981, saw john lloyd win in 5 over phil dent, the aussie and then mac played gullickson and the famous pits of the world, the chalk went everywhere! I was there, my dad had gone to get drinks and missed it all! A few years later Jeremy bates beating Thierry Champion in 5.

I remember becker playing doohan there, and connors playing a match that went to nearly 9.40 pm , lights twinkling and losing in 4 but I cant recall who he played ! Edit Robert seguso! Anyone remember flach and seguso the doubles pair and seguso married Canadian Carling Bassett, 



-- Edited by JonH comes home on Saturday 4th of April 2020 08:18:49 AM

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My only ever Wimbledon final was 1986, when becker beat lendl. No epic, but what a privilege.if I'd realised then I'd never attend again I'd have taken so much more in!

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Mention of Yayuk Basuki reminds one of when she first made an impact on British tennis. That was in the days when the Fed Cup was a straight knockout and we played Indonesia in the 1st round in Melbourne in 1988. After Clare Wood beat W. Walalangi, Sara Gomer then lost 2-6, 6-7 to Yayuk. Yayuk with her partner K.Kusuma then beat Clare and Julie Salmon in straight sets in the doubles. A humiliating  experience for GB. At least Yayuk went onto a successful career. I recall at the time GB had not bothered to watch their opponents in practice. The only other result  I thought was as bad was when we lost to Turkey in 2015. 



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Mention of Tom Okker and Leicester made me have a look back at the tournament which seems to be have been  held in 1970 and 1971 and was sponsored by Green Shield. It was obviously on grass but whereabouts is anybodies guess. Tom Okker won the mens in 1970 when the likes of Roger Taylor, Owen Davidson, Cliff Drysdale and Mark Cox were also playing. The mens event in 1971 did not have players of the same calibre. Turning to the ladies,  post Wimbledon 1970,  Evonne Goolagong won 3 grass court  tournaments in a row Leicester being the last. Other ladies in the tournament included Patti Hogan(who Evonne  beat in the final), Kerry Melville, Julie Heldman  and Judy Dalton. It could never happen these days but following her Wimbledon  singles  win,  Evonne returned to Leicester in 1971  again beating Patti   in the final. Other entrants included Judy Dalton and Helen Gourlay who Evonne had beaten in an All Australian French Open final that year.  So completes this tennis history or" the past is a foreign country they do things differently there."



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Rosamund, you might find this interesting!

books.google.com/books/about/A_Social_History_of_Tennis_in_Britain.html

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This was on french wiki!

fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tournoi_de_tennis_de_Leicester

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Thanks for the updates on Yayuk - it is so good to hear that she is still successful - I always used to watch her matches at Wimbledon; I think for quite a few years I was the only regular live follower at Wimbledon that she had - quite often on the park bench courts, when her matches started, there would be about ten of us watching, and nine having no idea who was in front of them, having chosen her court as somewhere quiet to eat their lunch . It is heartwarming to hear she is doing well - I could have probably found the info online, but it brought a smile to my face anyway.

I remember her coach well by the way; a fellow Indonesian bespectacled chap, who was always courtside at her matches over the years.

Yayuk was a very under-rated player and I am not surprised Indonesia beat Great Britain if she was playing - I have no memory of that I must admit.

The Tom Okker updates were interesting - he had a fine doubles partnership with Owen Davidson too, in the 1960's, which I seem to recall included Grand Slam doubles titles.

Okker's longevity meant he also had long partnerships with John Newcombe, Dick Stockton and Marty Riessen - he was always a big draw for the crowds; his small stature and lack of power were offset by his phenomenal athleticism, his joie de vivre and refusal to ever give up on shots, as he bounced around like an exuberant puppy, diving for shots and going for impossible balls. I'm sure any videos that exist will probably showing him diving headlong sideways to get back balls that anyone else would have given up on.

I don't remember his doubles title at Leicester, but then only Wimbledon was televised in those days, the internet obviously didn't exist and I'll guess it got minimal press coverage. JonH Comes Home is of course right to remember the doubles partnership with Fibak; it was one of the great doubles partnerships of all time, and Okker, probably more than any other player, was the reason that doubles was so popular in the late 60's through to the end of the 1970's as so many people wanted to watch the Flying Dutchman play.

Of course the McEnroe brothers were frequent opponents, as were Hewitt and McMillan, and  they were equally popular; doubles was much, much bigger than it is now; sad to see it is really a sideshow for most people these days. After Martina Navratilova, few great singles players have had really great doubles careers at the same time. In that era most of the top 16 in singles would also being trying hard to win doubles titles; these days I suppose the greater depth in tennis means fewer easy matches, and so top singles players generally avoid tiring themselves out with extra doubles matches.

Fond memories



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Saturday 4th of April 2020 11:32:12 PM



-- Edited by Andy Parker on Sunday 5th of April 2020 12:06:53 AM

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