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Week 6 - ITF (W15) Monastir, Tunisia Hard


Q1: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 v HALEMAI, Mylene (FRA) 2 818/403 CH=794/399 31/12/18 [18yo] 

Q1: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) 10 1149/464 v DELFOSSE, Lena (BEL) UNR/1386 CH=UNR/1383 27/01/20 [18yo]

Q1: DISSANAYAKE, Tanysha (GBR) 14 1236/667 v BOURBOTTE, Zoe (FRA) WC UNR/1842 CH=UNR/1740 16/12/19 [18yo]



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Eliz won 6-0 6-0

Destinee won 6-2 6-4 over the second seed

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Q1: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 def HALEMAI, Mylene (FRA) 2 818/403 6-2 6-4
Q1: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) 10 1149/464 def DELFOSSE, Lena (BEL) UNR/1386 6-0 6-0
Q1: DISSANAYAKE, Tanysha (GBR) 14 1236/667 def BOURBOTTE, Zoe (FRA) WC UNR/1842 6-0 6-1

Q2: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 v RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) 15 1281 CH=1267 14/10/19
Q2: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) 10 1149/464 v LE BIHAN, Kelia (FRA) 4 896 CH=681 22/7/19
Q2: DISSANAYAKE, Tanysha (GBR) 14 1236/667 v DA ROSA, Karolayne Alexandre (BRA) 8 1076 CH=846 31/12/18

I can't get the ITF rankings off the ITF site at present as all I get when I try is:-

404
We've made an unforced error.

I don't know why they switch to new software while it is so full of bugs.

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I know, Peter, I know..... :::(((

Good result from Destinee - Mylene is one of the much touted youngsters - she got a wildcard, I think, into Roland Garros doubles (part of the 'support the elite juniors' push from the FFT).

Has an interesting background too:

Mylène plays for France but is a native born Australian. Her father is from the Polynesian islands of Wallis and Futuna, and her mother is of aboriginal and Scottish descent.

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Pity. But I do wonder how much it is worth adding in ITF rankings to draws and results vs the extra effort to add them in. Personally I'm happy with just ATP and WTA rankings and then UNR.

It was of more interest when so many had lost ATP and WTA rankings when ITF rankings first came in. But with the ATP and WTA rankings largely back as was then ..?

Though if the general feeling is yes it is and Peter etc are happy to add them then fair dos.



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I second Indy's feelings, no need to clutter things with the meaningless ITF rankings.

On the subject of the ITF site, what they've done to it has made my tennis following experience a less enjoyable one. Nothing beat the old layout on terms of both player profiles and the tournament pages.



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Agreed - don't need the ITF rankings unless making a specific point.

I'm not finding the ITF site a problem. I always get the rankings by clicking on the player's name in the draw, and the current rankings for singles and doubles are easy to find.

But I don't like the layout at all.

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i had already restricted ITF rankings to $15Ks and only kept it for those because of the large number of UNRs in $15Ks. It gives some measure to compare the UNR players. Now we are into a new season it may be time to drop it from $15ks as well. 



-- Edited by Peter too on Monday 10th of February 2020 03:00:47 AM

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Peter too wrote:

i had already restricted ITF rankings to $15Ks and only kept it for those because of the large number of UNRs in $15Ks. It gives some measure to compare the UNR players. Now we are into a new season it may be time to drop it from $15ks as well. 



-- Edited by Peter too on Monday 10th of February 2020 03:00:47 AM


 That's very logical and good reasoning, Peter. And I certainly look at the ITF ranking if it's there - as you say, it gives extra info, especially for the 15ks. Given a a choice, I'd rather see it and it doesn't take up much space.

But I wouldn't really miss it if we didn't have it - and it's primarily a question of how time-consuming/annoying it is for the poster.



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An UNR for an ITF ranking does show information.
If a player is ranked WTA,but UNR ITF, it shows that they are making their points from WTA events alone, and not even needing to dip in to high tier ITFs to maintain their rankings.
Most players, even in the ~100-150 range would still play some ITF in any given season, and so likely be ITF ranked, even if lowly through one applicable score.
If a large disparity exists between the two rankings, that also gives a quick at-a-glance overview of a players likely activity profile.

I think CH is pretty much as useless, unless the CH was in a fuzzily defined recent window of achievement. Again with the Mel South example, CH in the top 100, only really played that levl for 6 months in her career. Someone posting on the Belgian forum of her CH 6 years after it was achieved would have no useful information without the time, and even then it bore no real relation to the imagined immediate match.
There's also the CH issue as pertains to 'college ringers' where countless pundits will tell you to ignore the CH becasue of special circumstance x or y that mrans that, to those apprently in th eknow, the player is actually, 'under ranked'. This usually means that our player will lose.

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After the good win yesterday, congrats to Destinee on making the main draw with ease today !

FQR: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 def. RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) (q15) 1281 6-2 6-2

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Two really close matches, both going to a MTB, but we couldn't quite carry off both....

Eliz gets the win, and into the MD, and Tanysha comes up just short.

Gabi Taylor is top seed in the MD

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Q2: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 def RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) 15 1281 6-2 6-2
Q2: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) 10 1149/464 def LE BIHAN, Kelia (FRA) 4 896 6-3 6-7(4) [10-0]
Q2: DISSANAYAKE, Tanysha (GBR) 14 1236/667 lost to DA ROSA, Karolayne Alexandre (BRA) 8 107 6-3 4-6 [7-10]

R1: TAYLOR, Gabriella (GBR) 1 440/215 v RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) LL 1281/707 CH=1267/638 14/10/19
R1: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) Q UNR/1019 v KENNEL, Karin (SUI) 5 531/140 CH=409/111 2014
R1: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) Q 1147/464 v VEDDER, Eva (NED) 7 566/19 =CH

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Pity Eliz and Destinee both drawing 500s ranked seeds. Be a good win for either if they pull it off.

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Peter too wrote:

Q2: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) UNR/1019 def RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) 15 1281 6-2 6-2
Q2: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) 10 1149/464 def LE BIHAN, Kelia (FRA) 4 896 6-3 6-7(4) [10-0]
Q2: DISSANAYAKE, Tanysha (GBR) 14 1236/667 lost to DA ROSA, Karolayne Alexandre (BRA) 8 107 6-3 4-6 [7-10]

R1: TAYLOR, Gabriella (GBR) 1 440/215 v RUSOVA, Alicia (SVK) LL 1281/707 CH=1267/638 14/10/19
R1: MARTINS, Destinee (GBR) Q UNR/1019 v KENNEL, Karin (SUI) 5 531/140 CH=409/111 2014
R1: MALONEY, Eliz (GBR) Q 1147/464 v VEDDER, Eva (NED) 7 566/19 =CH


 Have to say that if Gabi doesn't win this against a LL with a career high of 1281 then that will not be great news.

Let's hope Eliz and Destinee can cause an upset.



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