I noticed on Tennis Forum and MensTennisForum, they have threads which tracks the owner of the tennis belt, that being the person who beat the person, who beat the person, etc etc all the way starting back in 1973 or so when the first number 1 ranking was awarded. The first mens belt holder was the first number one, ie Ilie Nastase around the time of the US Open that year.
Those who follow boxing will know they have this concept, you beat the champ and you take the belt, someone beats you and they take it and so on and so forth.
It is a bit of fun not to be taken seriously. De Minaur is the current mens belt holder at DC, for WTA Barty was top at end of 2019.
So two aussie belt holders, be nice if GB ever achieved that! Of course, we may well have done in any of 1976, 2016 or 2017 when we had both mens and womens belt holders at some time in those years, but the detail is something I dont want to get into!
I was interested in which British players had held the belt at anytime, didnt take too long to trawl through and came up with this list:
For Brits, over time, womens holders have been Wade, Barker and Konta!
For men, Cox, Taylor, Feaver, Rusedski, Henman, Murray and...Edmund!
WTA
1976 - Virginia Wade on 2 occasions
1977 - Virginia Wade on 3 occasions, Sue Barker on 2 occasions
And then a big gap!!
2016 - Jo Konta took the belt on 2 occasions, in Miami and later in Beijing
2017 - Jo Konta took it again in Eastbourne
2019 - Jo Konta took it in Rome
I am not sure if any Brit took it in 2019, would have only been JK potentially, but the thread sort of ends at end of 2018. Anyone know if JK would have taken it at all this season?
ATP
1973 - Mark Cox 1 occasion
1974 - Roger Taylor 1 occasion
1975 - Mark Cox 2 occasions
1976 - John Feaver 1 occasion, Mark Cox 1 occasion
1999 - Tim Henman 1 occasion, Greg Rusedski 2 occasions
2000 - Greg Rusedski 1 occasion, Tim Henman 1 occasion
2001 - Greg Rusedski 1 occasion
2002 - Greg Rusedski 1 occasion
2003 - Tim Henman 1 occasion
2004 - Tim Henman 2 occasions
and then...
2006 - Andy Murray 1 occasion
2008 - Andy Murray 3 occasions
2009 - Andy Murray 3 occasions
2010 - Andy Murray 4 occasions
2011 - Andy Murray 3 occasions
2012 - Andy Murray 4 occasions
2013 - Andy Murray 1 occasion
2014 - Andy Murray 1 occasion
2015 - Andy Murray 2 occasions
2016 - Andy Murray 4 occasions
2017 - Andy Murray 2 occasions
and then!
2018 - Kyle Edmund 1 occasion (at Australian Open, before losing it to Cilic...)
and then through 2019
2019 Karen Khachanov - 1 match Stan Wawrinka - 2 matches Roberto Bautista-Agut - 7 matches Stefanos Tsitsipas - 1 match Rafael Nadal - 1 match Novak Djokovic - 2 matches Philipp Kohlschreiber - 1 match Gael Monfils - 1 match Dominic Thiem - 3 matches Hubert Hurkacz - 1 match Felix Auger-Aliassime - 3 matches John Isner - 1 match Roger Federer - 3 matches Dominic Thiem - 1 match Novak Djokovic - 6 matches Rafael Nadal - 13 matches Roger Federer - 1 match Novak Djokovic - 4 matches Daniil Medvedev - 8 matches
Rafael Nadal - 5 matches
Dennis Shapovalov - 1 match
Novak Djokovic - 2 matches
Dominic Thiem - 1 match
Matteo Berrettini - 1 match (although Berrettini went out of RR after this it was a match that counted towards official count etc)
Dennis Shapovalov 2 matches (at Davis Cup he beat Berrettini and Fritz ) and then
Alex de Minaur (Current champion and Belt Holder) - De Minaur beat Shapo in DC QF round and of course Australia then got knocked out so he retains the Belt
-- Edited by JonH comes home on Thursday 28th of November 2019 06:27:18 PM
Nope! I went through the year myself and found Jo had taken the belt during her Rome week (beating Bertens who was holder at the time), with Barty ending the year tops in the WTA, De Minaur in the mens (which I have listed)
-- Edited by JonH comes home on Thursday 28th of November 2019 06:28:35 PM
This is interesting and quite amusing, however if it was anything like boxing:
You would have at least four or five belts, perhaps the ATP, the NextGen, the over 30s, the under 6fts
Belt holders would regularly refuse to play each other, even if they were drawn in the same ATP event
Belt holders would constantly squabble over how much money they earn
Matches decided by tiebreak would regularly be awarded to the person who actually lost the tiebreak
Nadal, Fed and Djokovic would regularly have face offs before finals and have at least a couple of days of bad mouthing each other before the match...now that would be funny!
This is interesting and quite amusing, however if it was anything like boxing:
You would have at least four or five belts, perhaps the ATP, the NextGen, the over 30s, the under 6fts
Belt holders would regularly refuse to play each other, even if they were drawn in the same ATP event
Belt holders would constantly squabble over how much money they earn
Matches decided by tiebreak would regularly be awarded to the person who actually lost the tiebreak
Nadal, Fed and Djokovic would regularly have face offs before finals and have at least a couple of days of bad mouthing each other before the match...now that would be funny!
Isnt that how tennis was when Connors, McEnroe and Lendl used to play each other !!!