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Post Info TOPIC: Week 35 - Challenger (€46,600+H) - Rafa Nadal Open, Manacor, Mallorca (hard)


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Week 35 - Challenger (€46,600+H) - Rafa Nadal Open, Manacor, Mallorca (hard)


L48:  Qualifier/Lucky loser vs (WC) Andy Murray WR 329 (CH = 1 in November 2016)

Winner to play Norbert Gombos (3).  The top seed is Peter Gojowczyk (WR 88)



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Probably not the best draw, means he has to win 6 matches in 6 days to win it.

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wolf wrote:

Probably not the best draw, means he has to win 6 matches in 6 days to win it.


 At this point Id settle for one win. 



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Given what we have seen from Andy against Gasquet and Sandgren I think it is perfectly reasonable to be looking for wins plural here and even thinking about going all the way, although a match vs Gombos could be a decent test.



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Tennis abstract rate andy as a 32.4 percent chance of winning the event, making him event favourite based on their analysis.

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Does TennisAbstact do its analysis purely on objective measures? I was just thinking that Andy would be an interesting test for these.



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indiana wrote:

Does TennisAbstact do its analysis purely on objective measures? I was just thinking that Andy would be an interesting test for these.


 I may be wrong, but I think they take the ELO ratings they assign players for a given surface and then run 1000 simulations for each match up in each round, and use the results of those simulations to do their predictions. Each time a result comes in, they re run all the tournie simulations and change the predictions. 

Specifically, they say to generate forecasts for a specific matchup, use a 50/50 blend of overall Elo and surface-specific Elo. These 50/50 blends are shown in the table as "hElo," "cElo,", and "gElo." The 'default' match type is best-of-three, so in a best-of-five match, the favorite will have a better chance of winning, by a factor that depends on the best-of-three odds.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/current/2019MallorcaChallenger.html

Andy doesnt seem to appear in the current listing, so not sure how they allocate him an ELO, but overall they rate him as the 7th best player of all time at his peak and the 7th best on hardcourts at his peak

 

http://tennisabstract.com/reports/atp_elo_ratings.html

 

http://www.tennisabstract.com/blog/2015/09/18/the-case-for-novak-djokovic-and-roger-federer-and-rafael-nadal/

 

Yes, it will be interesting to see how Andy does in reality!



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As an aside, these forecasts rate Dan and Cam to get at least 1 win and kyle to get 2 wins this week. Be relieved if that happens

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In the doubles:

L16:  (WC) Sergio Martos & Pedro Vives (ESP/ESP) CR 989 (223+766) vs Scott Clayton & Lloyd Glasspool CR 519 (202+317)



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twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1165656423142973440

17 year old Frenchman up first for Andy.

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twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1165656423142973440

17 year old Frenchman up first for Andy.


L48:  (ALT) Imran Sibille (FRA) UNR vs (WC) Andy Murray WR 329



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They must have scrapped qualies:  Sibille is one of EIGHT alternates in the main draw!



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Stircrazy wrote:

They must have scrapped qualies:  Sibille is one of EIGHT alternates in the main draw!


 Hmm, sounds a bit fawlty. 



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indiana wrote:
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They must have scrapped qualies:  Sibille is one of EIGHT alternates in the main draw!


 Hmm, sounds a bit fawlty. 


I'll get your coat for you after that one no



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