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Coup Droit · Tennis legend

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dodrade · Futures qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
Nice to see Andy back in the top 100
Liam is back to his old CH (and lots of other CHs too )
Jack Draper is close to top 200
Ali G makes the top 500
And Blu cracks the top 1000

07/02/22

Top 500 and other upward movers

13 (=) Cameron Norrie
27 (-5) Dan Evans
95 (+7) Andy Murray

121 (+3) Liam Broady (CH)
132 (=) Kyle Edmund
191 (+5) Jay Clarke

207 (+5) Jack Draper (age 20) (CH)
256 (+7) Ryan Peniston (CH)

311 (+8) Aidan McHugh (age 21) (CH)
317 (=) Paul Jubb (CH)

438 (+10) Billy Harris
460 (+19) Anton Matusevich (age 20)
495 (+6) Alastair Gray (CH)
500 (-1) Stuart Parker

513 (+47) Jan Choinski
560 (+2) Felix Gill (age 19) (CH)

839 (+9) Dan Little (CH)
875 (+19) Julian Cash (CH)
959 (+64) Blu Baker (age 20) (CH)

1146 (+188) Ben Jones (CH)

Won't Andy soon drop out again if he isn't playing the clay court season?

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Andy will be ok as he doesnt have many points to defend before Wimbledon and the equalisation of all the Covid points wont harm him. He has also said he will work his schedule round it. I dont think its impossible for Andy to be seeded by Wimbledon, tall order but certainly top 50 isnt that far off. One or two decent tournaments.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, as Jaggy says Andy has very little to defend before the grass season. Just 93 points ( 48 this week from the Biella Challenger 2021 and 45 in March from Rotterdam 2021).

So in fact the short term is good with Andy's points drop offs considerably more weighted to later in the year. In particular no clay points to add but none to come off and overall other players could be dropping more clay points than they add. Playing some clay tournaments could have helped his ranking, not playing shouldn't negatively effect it.

In the very short term I guess he could drop out pf the top 100 with these 93 points coming off if he adds nothing in the meantime because the points are quite close around the WR 100 mark. But generally it won't take too much for good upwards progress.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

The rankings are interesting near the top 100 as its actually easier to get from say 100 to 70 in the rankings than 120 to 100 in some respects. Liam might find I think if he breaks the top 100 that he will be able to climb to 70-80 if he makes it.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Whilst I agree with the above, my concern is Andy only has currently the highly leveraged events in Rotterdam, Doha, Dubai, IW and Miami to play before the clay season, which he will skip. So April and May and half of June will have no events currently, unless he chooses to play a few challenger hardcourt events in the clay season to swoop for some points and to maintain match play.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I think Andy if he is ranked 60-100 or even below will play a couple hard court challengers. He has said he will schedule accordingly and having over 2 months off makes no sense at this stage. Unless of course he somehow goes deep in all these tournaments in Feb and March and somehow ends up back in the top 32 in which case it will be well earned.

theemptyvessel · Club Coach

I do think from a rankings perspective Andy has chosen the more difficult route for the next few weeks. The draws are stacked at the tournaments he is entered into whereas the ATP events in America right now are reasonably open. His mentality may be that playing tougher opposition is better for the development of his game as he seeks to get closer to his old self but it is high risk as he could well find himself going out at the first hurdle in successive tournaments as opposed to going deep at a place like Dallas and the obvious benefits of multiple matches played and also ranking points earned.

indiana · Tennis legend

Now we're only in the 6th week of the year but I thought it worth a litttle mention that we currently have 6 players in the live race top 100 indicating a generally very decent start to the season by our top players.

14. Dan 350 points ( not playing this week )
27. Andy 240 ( L16 so far in Rottetdam 500 )
68. Cam 100 ( QF so far in Rotterdam 500 )
81. Jack 87 ( L16 so far in Cherbourg 80 )
85. Jay 78 ( lost in R1 in Bengaluru 80 )
92. Liam 74 ( qualified and made L16 in Dallas 250 )

I make it that there are only 4 countries with more players in this early race top 100.

1. France 10
2. USA 9
3. Spain 8
4. Argentina 7
5. GB 6
5. Russia 6

Strongbow · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Now we're only in the 6th week of the year but I thought it worth a litttle mention that we currently have 6 players in the live race top 100 indicating a generally very decent start to the season by our top players.

14. Dan 350 points ( not playing this week )
27. Andy 240 ( L16 so far in Rottetdam 500 )
68. Cam 100 ( QF so far in Rotterdam 500 )
81. Jack 87 ( L16 so far in Cherbourg 80 )
85. Jay 78 ( lost in R1 in Bengaluru 80 )
92. Liam 74 ( qualified and made L16 in Dallas 250 )

I make it that there are only 4 countries with more players in this early race top 100.

1. France 10
2. USA 9
3. Spain 8
4. Argentina 7
5. GB 6
5. Russia 6

Should keep them near 1670 - a brilliant effort. biggrin

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Important jumps up for Liam and Jack to give new CHs, (as well as little ticks up to CHs for Ryan, Paul, Ali and Stu). And Andy making his move

No other real moves of note (although players like Felix, for instance, have a new CH with a little nudge up of +2 to 558)

14/02/22

Top 500 and other upward movers (of 10 points or more)

13 (=) Cameron Norrie
28 (-1) Dan Evans
87 (+8) Andy Murray

116 (+5) Liam Broady (CH)
188 (+3) Jay Clarke

201 (+6) Jack Draper (age 20) (CH)
213 (-81) Kyle Edmund
255 (+1) Ryan Peniston (CH)

312 (-1) Aidan McHugh (age 21)
315 (+2) Paul Jubb (CH)

438 (=) Billy Harris
460 (=) Anton Matusevich (age 20)
494 (+1) Alastair Gray (CH)
499 (+1) Stuart Parker (CH)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Our top 100 in doubles currently stands like this (plus significant upward movers)

With a new CH for Lloyd who is now 6th in the list

14/02/22

Top 100 Doubles

3 (=) Joe Salisbury (CH)
19 (=) Neal Skupski
21 (-1) Jamie Murray (age 36)
57 (-1) Dan Evans
59 (-1) Ken Skupski (age 38)
62 (+8) Lloyd Glasspool (CH)
69 (-9) Dom Inglot (age 35)
77 (-2) Jonny O'Mara

477 (+78) Jack Draper (CH)
558 (+153) Jay Clarke

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Monday 21st of February 2022 09:41:54 AM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

We have the daft situation of players like Kyle and James Ward going up 10-15 places, despite neither having played for almost two years or whatever - completely ridiculous. And Stuart has slipped out of the top-500.

BUT, leaving the negatives aside, Jack Draper is our 'star' - age 20 and +39 to ATP 162. In addition, a big jump up for Ali Gray, and new CHs for lots (remember, Glasgow's points aren't on yet), including a lot of teenagers with significant jumps, like Jack PJ, Felix, Harry W, Blu, and Oliver Tarvet

21/02/22

Top 500 and other upward movers (of 10 points or more)

12 (+1) Cameron Norrie (CH)
28 (=) Dan Evans
89 (-2) Andy Murray

122 (-6) Liam Broady
162 (+39) Jack Draper (age 20) (CH)
180 (+8) Jay Clarke

204 (+9) Kyle Edmund
247 (+8) Ryan Peniston (CH)

307 (+5) Aidan McHugh (age 21) (CH)
309 (+6) Paul Jubb (CH)

412 (+82) Alastair Gray (CH)
446 (-8) Billy Harris
458 (+2) Anton Matusevich (age 20)

540 (+18) Felix Gill (age 19) (CH)
580 (+6) Charles Broom (CH)
628 (+28) Jack Pinnington Jones (age 18) (CH)
762 (+276) Harry Wendelken (age 20) (CH)
868 (+90) Blu Baker (age 20) (CH)

1433 - NEW IN - Oliver Tarvet (age 18) (CH)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

21/02/22

Top 100 Doubles and main upward movers

3 (=) Joe Salisbury (CH)
16 (+3) Neal Skupski
21 (=) Jamie Murray (age 36)
56 (+1) Dan Evans
61 (-2) Ken Skupski (age 38)
65 (-3) Lloyd Glasspool
74 (-5) Dom Inglot (age 35)
75 (+2) Jonny O'Mara

369 (+13) Alastair Gray
484 (+30) Mark Whitehouse

600 (+152) Josh Paris
638 (+173) Anton Matusevich
717 (+62) Henry Patten
730 (+25) Brydan Klein
847 (+41) Scott Duncan
862 (+278) Harry Wendelken
966 (+391) Oscar Weightman
987 (+42) Blu Baker

1524 (+250) Alexis Canter
1533 - NEW IN - Thomas Welsh
1541 - NEW IN - Henry Searle (born 2006)
1581 (+244) Ying Hou

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Good to see Kyle moving back up the rankings - 9 places. wink

Seriously though, I do find it strange that a player who hasn't played for almost 18 months is still in the Top 250 rankings.