Week 30 - ITF (W80) - Granby, Canada - Hard

Michael D · All-time great

Week 30 - ITF (W80) - Granby, Canada - Hard

PaulM · Tennis legend

Week 30 - ITF (W80) Granby, Canada - Hard

Michael D · All-time great

Yes indeed. Emily is also one of those who will lose out a bit once the transition points are added back in, as she will fall about 55 places. In fact Emily Appleton will go ahead of her, which certainly seems wrong, so yes it would be good if this Em could pick up a few more points the next couple of points to regain her position.

indiana · Tennis legend

I guess the rankings will be what they will be and I just hope they are now left to settle again in the new/old format.

As folk have pointed out some players who have been foresaking 15Ks for 25Ks and above ( and not had that much success there ) because the 15Ks were not counting to WTA rankings will initially lose out a bit. Though in Em's case I doubt 15Ks would ever have been on her agenda much if at all anyway, since she has her doubles interests too.

I certainly get the impression that most here are happy to see 15Ks ( plus 15Ks and 25Ks for the men ) now counting again for the WTA and ATP rankings with just some discussion re the timing. But counting 25Ks and above only and then reverting back again was quite revealing regarding these who relatively struggled at 25K+ ( would be even more revealing if MD R1 losers didn't get points ).

Michael D · All-time great

Week 30 - ITF (W80) - Granby, Canada - Hard

PaulM · Tennis legend

If they used Monday's rankings they would be seeded 2. Not sure why they haven't to be honest as draw was made today.

Their opponents are, again, the highest ranked unseeded players.

indiana · Tennis legend

It is standard practice to use the previous Monday's rankings for singles and doubles seeding no matter when the draw is made ( I would imagine actually in rules somewhere so that things are clear ).

The only exceptions that I am aware of are the Indian Wells and Miami mandatories with their late in the week starts ( and actually that may just be the ATP side, I'm not sure re the WTA ).

the addict · Tennis legend

Yes, it's in the ITF Rulebook

Singles: $25,000 to $100,000 Tournaments
In singles, seeding shall be based on the following order of priority:
A. Players with a WTA Singles Ranking from Monday seven (7) days
before the Tournament Week.
B. If seed positions remain available, players with an ITF World Tennis
Singles Ranking from Monday seven (7) days before the Tournament
Week

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Think that must just be on the ATP side for Miami Indi because IW champ Bianca Andreescu would have been seeded for Miami and therefore receive a bye, but instead had to play an extra round (and has since played only 1 extra tournament...)

flamingowings · All-time great

Ace Ventura wrote:
Think that must just be on the ATP side for Miami Indi because IW champ Bianca Andreescu would have been seeded for Miami and therefore receive a bye, but instead had to play an extra round (and has since played only 1 extra tournament...)

Bianca was injured during IW regardless of if she played the "extra" Miami round or not - the bye wouldn't have changed anything.

the addict · Tennis legend

The WTA rules for seeding are the same as for the ITF - ranking in the week preceeding the tournament

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

flamingowings wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Think that must just be on the ATP side for Miami Indi because IW champ Bianca Andreescu would have been seeded for Miami and therefore receive a bye, but instead had to play an extra round (and has since played only 1 extra tournament...)
Bianca was injured during IW regardless of if she played the "extra" Miami round or not - the bye wouldn't have changed anything.

Probably not, but she managed to win the 3 matches in Miami including a very long R1 3 setter with Begu which wouldn't have helped, so some thought an extra round off might have had a bit of an impact. Either way, the main point was the new rankings weren't in effect.

I suppose if nothing else, it would have given her an extra day or two to decide if she was able to play and perhaps discuss with her parents, who I recall had specifically made the trip to watch her there.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 22nd of July 2019 09:31:00 PM

flamingowings · All-time great

Ace Ventura wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Think that must just be on the ATP side for Miami Indi because IW champ Bianca Andreescu would have been seeded for Miami and therefore receive a bye, but instead had to play an extra round (and has since played only 1 extra tournament...)
Bianca was injured during IW regardless of if she played the "extra" Miami round or not - the bye wouldn't have changed anything.
Probably not, but she managed to win the 3 matches in Miami including a very long R1 3 setter with Begu which wouldn't have helped, so some thought an extra round off might have had a bit of an impact. Either way, the main point was the new rankings weren't in effect.
I suppose if nothing else, it would have given her an extra day or two to decide if she was able to play and perhaps discuss with her parents, who I recall had specifically made the trip to watch her there.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Monday 22nd of July 2019 09:31:00 PM

She turned up at FO, won at least a round and then withdrew I think (with the same injury). I think it would not have changed a thing as it was still an issue (& is still an issue?) all these months later. The real damage was already done during IW.

the addict · Tennis legend

Em just started - ITF livestream available

Michael D · All-time great

One thing about Em's play, she doesn't die wondering.. Comes into the net a lot (like a good doubles player), and even tried serve and volleying one point I watched. Shots are often too deep though allowing Hibino to pass her several times. However, she is not likely to hold serve either through passive play, so is interesting to watch her tactics. Hibino, even if troubled a bit by her ball toss and an iffy first serve nevertheless has the first set easily enough 6-2. Emily missing too many opportunities when she does have a chance, indicated by the volley she dumped into the net instead of taking the score to deuce on set point.