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Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Wimbledon

Lambda · Futures qualifying

Players have missed tournaments because of not being granted a visa before without the tournament being penalised, although in most of those instances its been individual players nationalities. Estonia has a ban on Russians and Belarusians competing in their country and there were no Russians or Belarusians in last year's WTA250 in Tallinn because of this. Tournaments shouldn't be penalised for their government's policy of the day. The government's policy can be used in deciding whether to award a licence, but once the contract is signed for the licence they shouldn't be penalised for whatever the government's policy is when the tournament comes to be played. It should always have been the Government's decision as to whether people of certain nationalities can play in their country and they shouldn't pass the buck on to Governing Bodies and Event organisers as 'advice' or 'recommendations'. I'm not sure whether they did that for diplomatic reasons or because of the Tories position of believing in a 'free society' and not wanting to regulate and 'tell people what to do'.

Lambda · Futures qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:

I think it's wrong to tell players it should take roughly three weeks and then it take over six weeks and counting

BUT if one of the conditions is: "They must also not receive funding from Russian or Belarusian states, including sponsorship from companies operated or controlled by them." - from the BBC site above - and if they are checking that - as well as other connections - then I understand that it could take a while and I have no problem that Mirra's political connections have to checked, just like anyone else's.

Checking if a player meets the entry conditions of Wimbledon is not for the Government to check and should have no bearing on a decision to issue a visa. In any event, the condition you state is only applicable for the duration of Wimbledon - they can be sponsored by the state and associated companies immediately before and after Wimbledon - and as long as they don't display any logos of the state or associated companies while at Wimbledon then they will have met the condition which is not really anything the government can check.

Certain nationalities or individuals can take longer than the typical 3 weeks if additional checks are required. In the case of Russians and Belarusians there will be more intensive checks including whether they are on the government's official sanction list and whether they have any association with people on that list among other things.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

I noticed there are no Russians and Belarussians on the entry lists for Queens and Eastbourne, or the Nottingham and Ilkley Challengers, on the mens side at least - havent checked the womens. So any delays will impact Wimbledon only for men , at least

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
I noticed there are no Russians and Belarussians on the entry lists for Queens and Eastbourne, or the Nottingham and Ilkley Challengers, on the mens side at least - havent checked the womens. So any delays will impact Wimbledon only for men , at least

Although there are 6 Russian men in the top-100 ATP, the next 6 go all the way from 100-400

So, yes, not many men eligible for challengers, say.

More women.

I seriously doubt the delays are a deliberate, behinds the scene delaying tactic, as some on twitter are suggesting. It seems quite normal to me that it's not easy to check banned connections etc. The wheels turn quite slowly in the vias office at the best of times. One friend was told about 3 months, and it came through 14 months later. True, this was for a longer term visa, but 14 is not 3 :(

dodrade · Satellite level

Coup Droit wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
I noticed there are no Russians and Belarussians on the entry lists for Queens and Eastbourne, or the Nottingham and Ilkley Challengers, on the mens side at least - havent checked the womens. So any delays will impact Wimbledon only for men , at least
Although there are 6 Russian men in the top-100 ATP, the next 6 go all the way from 100-400
So, yes, not many men eligible for challengers, say.
More women.
I seriously doubt the delays are a deliberate, behinds the scene delaying tactic, as some on twitter are suggesting. It seems quite normal to me that it's not easy to check banned connections etc. The wheels turn quite slowly in the vias office at the best of times. One friend was told about 3 months, and it came through 14 months later. True, this was for a longer term visa, but 14 is not 3 :(

Presumably if the government was intending to refuse visas to Russians they would have said so months ago instead of messing the players and various Tennis authorities around.

Lambda · Futures qualifying

Qualifying lists out
Broady, Choinski and Peniston in for men. Last in Giannessi WR221.
Burrage, Boulter, Dart, Swan, Watson and Miyazaki in for women. Last in is Melnikova WR215(SR). Kartal will need a qWC as she's only 60th alt.

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/atoz/entry_lists.html

PaulM · Tennis legend

12 players using Special Rankings!

Madadman · Top national player

Prize money has been announced.

www.wimbledon.com/pdf/The_Championships_2023_Prize%20Money.pdf

-- Edited by Madadman on Wednesday 14th of June 2023 10:26:15 AM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Thanks for this, Madadman

Jan · Hall of fame

BBC reporting that Wimbledon are experimenting with AI commentary. Nooooooo. Apparently for matches that don't otherwise have commentary. No commentary is one of the advantages of being able to choose matches on the website.
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere.

Strongbow · All-time great

Jan wrote:
BBC reporting that Wimbledon are experimenting with AI commentary. Nooooooo. Apparently for matches that don't otherwise have commentary. No commentary is one of the advantages of being able to choose matches on the website.
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere.

Well it's not "C*stl*"

-- Edited by Strongbow on Wednesday 12th of July 2023 10:37:02 PM

Lambda · Futures qualifying

The AELTC's Wimbledon Park proposals go before the council planning committee tonight with a recommendation to approve subject to numerous obligations provided through a S106 agreement.

Var · Club Coach

Lambda wrote:
The AELTC's Wimbledon Park proposals go before the council planning committee tonight with a recommendation to approve subject to numerous obligations provided through a S106 agreement.

My experience of A1 commentary - this could be a scream of a laugh.

Madadman · Top national player

Lambda wrote:
The AELTC's Wimbledon Park proposals go before the council planning committee tonight with a recommendation to approve subject to numerous obligations provided through a S106 agreement.

Stu Fraser is running a Twitter thread on it.

https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1717604480567402871?s=46&t=HQ-l_ZmPv-CnAm8WRXRGZA