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In reply to Lambda: I have not read or heard that our Government would ask for the written assurances that you state. If this is true then you are correct in what you say. These players are playing around the world flagless with no problems or letter writing so the same should happen here. I cannot comment further until I have found for sure that our Government have required this from the players. The players should be allowed to play whether they support the war or not, you cannot cancel people because of their political beliefs, that would be an extreme form of discrimination and totally unacceptable.

In reply to Coup Droit: No, LESS than 12 million have been displaced and no, I am not going to discuss SA here. I too hope that the conflict is over ASAP.

In reply to emmsie69: You are right, I believe many of these sanctions will be here for the longer term if not for good, as there is a lot more at play here than the conflict. Something else I am not going to discuss on a tennis forum.

Let's end cancel culture and victimising people because they were born in the wrong country or have the wrong opinion and let sport continue and let the hopeless politicians deal with the rest.

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 I was being ironic  Or trying..... 

Simply claiming the news is wrong has no force. It could be wrong one way, it could be wrong the other. You have no proof (none given here, I mean) that it's wrong, either too high OR too low. 

Yes, emmsie, you're probably right - that's punctured my Happyland moment......

NB Simon Briggs in The Telegraph seems to have lost the logic somewhere.....

He writes that it's all because the AELTC is a very new and inexperienced group now. Major diplomatic fail.

May well have some truth....

However, he criticises Sally Bolton as:

"Sally Bolton is relatively young to be in this post at least by comparison with her predecessors."

And then criticises Hewitt, as "Hewitt took over from Brook in 2019 and is now 74, which means that he is banging up against the typical top limit of 75 for AELTC chairmen"

The lack of experience is one thing but are we supposed to believe that there's a 'Golden Age'? and only people age 55-65 could possibly be fit for the role?

www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2022/04/20/martina-navratilova-slams-wimbledons-ban-russian-players-politics/

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stevemcqueen wrote:

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Mark1968, what are your thoughts regarding the exclusion of South Africa from International sport in the era of Apartheid?  

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 Rather than editing my post I will admit to making an error bringing this into the conversation.  I bought the South African issue up in the wrong context.  There is a relevance there but it is a bit tenuous.  What I had in mind but should have explained better is that the Wimby commitee have over extended their powers, even though I know they can ban anyone and probably will if you turn up in the wrong footwear etc.  We live in an age of cancel culture where anyone anywhere who can ban / silence another person etc will.  The committee are behaving like bully boys - we have an excuse to ban you, even though you are innocent of any wrong doing, so we will - because we can!

I now have the task of writing to every sponsor of Wimbledon asking them to withdraw their support.  There are wars going on all over the world and you could make a case along the lines Wimby have used to ban players from several countries but they have not, they have even targeted players form Belarus which is even worse. 

Regarding SA despite knowing someone who lived there in the 1950's who would paint a different picture to the one we understand here, I will not comment.  Only for the reason that this is a tennis forum about current events and nothing else. 

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 Sorry, to clarify - do you have a role in tennis or tennis sponsorship that requires you to write to the sponsors? Not trying to catch you out at all, genuinely interested in your position in the sport?

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Mark1968 wrote:

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stevemcqueen wrote:

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Mark1968, what are your thoughts regarding the exclusion of South Africa from International sport in the era of Apartheid?  

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 Rather than editing my post I will admit to making an error bringing this into the conversation.  I bought the South African issue up in the wrong context.  There is a relevance there but it is a bit tenuous.  What I had in mind but should have explained better is that the Wimby commitee have over extended their powers, even though I know they can ban anyone and probably will if you turn up in the wrong footwear etc.  We live in an age of cancel culture where anyone anywhere who can ban / silence another person etc will.  The committee are behaving like bully boys - we have an excuse to ban you, even though you are innocent of any wrong doing, so we will - because we can!

I now have the task of writing to every sponsor of Wimbledon asking them to withdraw their support.  There are wars going on all over the world and you could make a case along the lines Wimby have used to ban players from several countries but they have not, they have even targeted players form Belarus which is even worse. 

Regarding SA despite knowing someone who lived there in the 1950's who would paint a different picture to the one we understand here, I will not comment.  Only for the reason that this is a tennis forum about current events and nothing else. 

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 Sorry, to clarify - do you have a role in tennis or tennis sponsorship that requires you to write to the sponsors? Not trying to catch you out at all, genuinely interested in your position in the sport?

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 I would also be interested to know the answer to JonH's question. Clearly, there are diffferences of opinion here, but at least we are still talking. I am sure that we would be in agreement on many other topics. 

This messaging board is always pleased to have insight from people who are closer to the game than I, Emmsie, CD,Indie, JonH and the rest of us are.  

-- Edited by stevemcqueen on Thursday 21st of April 2022 12:12:02 PM

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In reply to Christ: The war is misrepresented on the fakestream media and don't forget that Zelensky has been bombing Russians in the Donbas area since 2014 so you are right with what you say.
Boris Johnson is a puppet leader for the World Economic Forum / United Nations, he does not make major policy decisions. He is having to follow their 'Great Reset' plan. Please also research Agenda 21 / Agenda 2030. All the events of the last two years have been in the planning for decades.

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 Omg hahahahahhaha. Not this!! Mark Zuckerberg has so much to answer for

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Mark1968 wrote:

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In reply to Christ: The war is misrepresented on the fakestream media and don't forget that Zelensky has been bombing Russians in the Donbas area since 2014 so you are right with what you say.
Boris Johnson is a puppet leader for the World Economic Forum / United Nations, he does not make major policy decisions. He is having to follow their 'Great Reset' plan. Please also research Agenda 21 / Agenda 2030. All the events of the last two years have been in the planning for decades.

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 Omg hahahahahhaha. Not this!! Mark Zuckerberg has so much to answer for

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 Zelensky took over the presidency in 2019, not 2014. Yes, the Azov militia have been bombing Donbas since 2014 but lets not forget the far right in Ukraine represent less than 2% of the seats, much less than many European countries, and lets not forget France has Le Pen striving to be President this weekend.

What the Azov's did in Donbas is no excuse to then try and destroy the whole country of Ukraine and commit mass war crimes along the way, and it certainly isnt sponsored by a New World Order and the Great Reset.