Jan Choinski is the new Brydan Klein of British Tennis??

Vandenburg · Futures level

Jan Choinski is the new Brydan Klein of British Tennis??

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Could be, but far too early for this kind of talk - many on here wouldn't have even heard of him just 5 weeks ago. He came through 3 rounds and made the QF of one just 3 weeks ago and was serving for the match against Dustin Brown last week. Give him at least 18 months and a couple of grass seasons to see what he can do with opportunities most wouldn't get and see if he can use it as a platform to push on before making such comparisons.

And even if he does turn out to be 'just a Brydan Klein', he's fully entitled to change nationality, just like the likes of Gabi Taylor, Emma Raducanu and (I assume) Katy Swan could the other way, if they wanted to. I'd rather someone like Jan with a British flag next to his name and British roots get a Wimbledon wildcard than 4 being sent back like last year - he's not exactly taking opportunities from other people as it stands.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 3rd of February 2019 08:14:26 PM

Vandenburg · Futures level

Ace Ventura wrote:
Could be, but far too early for this kind of talk - many on here wouldn't have even heard of him just 5 weeks ago. He came through 3 rounds and made the QF of one just 3 weeks ago and was serving for the match against Dustin Brown last week. Give him at least 18 months and a couple of grass seasons to see what he can do with opportunities most wouldn't get and see if he can use it as a platform to push on before making such comparisons.
And even if he does turn out to be 'just a Brydan Klein', he's fully entitled to change nationality, just like the likes of Gabi Taylor, Emma Raducanu and (I assume) Katy Swan could the other way, if they wanted to. I'd rather someone like Jan with a British flag next to his name and British roots get a Wimbledon wildcard than 4 being sent back like last year - he's not exactly taking opportunities from other people as it stands.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 3rd of February 2019 08:14:26 PM

I'm not really questioning their ability to represent team GB, have no problem with this, as they have the right to via descent. Just saying only time will tell if Choinski is a low level challenger player at best.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Vandenburg wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Could be, but far too early for this kind of talk - many on here wouldn't have even heard of him just 5 weeks ago. He came through 3 rounds and made the QF of one just 3 weeks ago and was serving for the match against Dustin Brown last week. Give him at least 18 months and a couple of grass seasons to see what he can do with opportunities most wouldn't get and see if he can use it as a platform to push on before making such comparisons.
And even if he does turn out to be 'just a Brydan Klein', he's fully entitled to change nationality, just like the likes of Gabi Taylor, Emma Raducanu and (I assume) Katy Swan could the other way, if they wanted to. I'd rather someone like Jan with a British flag next to his name and British roots get a Wimbledon wildcard than 4 being sent back like last year - he's not exactly taking opportunities from other people as it stands.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 3rd of February 2019 08:14:26 PM
I'm not really questioning their ability to represent team GB, have no problem with this, as they have the right to via descent. Just saying only time will tell if Choinski is a low level challenger player at best.

He could well be, possibly will be, or he could crash the top 100. Just seemed a bit early to be making such comparisons.

christ · Futures level

I thought that the traditional unit of measurement for British lack of success was the "Bogdanovic"?

Vandenburg · Futures level

Ace Ventura wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Could be, but far too early for this kind of talk - many on here wouldn't have even heard of him just 5 weeks ago. He came through 3 rounds and made the QF of one just 3 weeks ago and was serving for the match against Dustin Brown last week. Give him at least 18 months and a couple of grass seasons to see what he can do with opportunities most wouldn't get and see if he can use it as a platform to push on before making such comparisons.
And even if he does turn out to be 'just a Brydan Klein', he's fully entitled to change nationality, just like the likes of Gabi Taylor, Emma Raducanu and (I assume) Katy Swan could the other way, if they wanted to. I'd rather someone like Jan with a British flag next to his name and British roots get a Wimbledon wildcard than 4 being sent back like last year - he's not exactly taking opportunities from other people as it stands.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 3rd of February 2019 08:14:26 PM
I'm not really questioning their ability to represent team GB, have no problem with this, as they have the right to via descent. Just saying only time will tell if Choinski is a low level challenger player at best.
He could well be, possibly will be, or he could crash the top 100. Just seemed a bit early to be making such comparisons.

He is facing some important years, he is 22.5 years, the stats tell us that if you do not break the top 100 by 25, you never will.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Vandy: "...the stats tell us that if you do not break the top 100 by 25, you never will."

Unless you're the crowd favourite, surfer dude, Stéphane Robert, who first got into the top 100 at age nearly 30

(And others of a similar ilk)

Mind you, it was only just and he never got much higher. However, he's earned about 2.5 million.

(Not disagreeing with the general sentiment, Vandy, but everyone likes the feelgood exception stories).

JonH · All-time great

christ wrote:
I thought that the traditional unit of measurement for British lack of success was the "Bogdanovic"?

What is he doing these days??

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

I don't know if Vandy's rule applies to just ATP, but this is probably the most feel good emergence (albeit with a set back during the US Open Series):

www.wtatennis.com/players/player/312268/title/mihaela-buzarnescu-0

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Vandenburg wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:
Could be, but far too early for this kind of talk - many on here wouldn't have even heard of him just 5 weeks ago. He came through 3 rounds and made the QF of one just 3 weeks ago and was serving for the match against Dustin Brown last week. Give him at least 18 months and a couple of grass seasons to see what he can do with opportunities most wouldn't get and see if he can use it as a platform to push on before making such comparisons.
And even if he does turn out to be 'just a Brydan Klein', he's fully entitled to change nationality, just like the likes of Gabi Taylor, Emma Raducanu and (I assume) Katy Swan could the other way, if they wanted to. I'd rather someone like Jan with a British flag next to his name and British roots get a Wimbledon wildcard than 4 being sent back like last year - he's not exactly taking opportunities from other people as it stands.

-- Edited by Ace Ventura on Sunday 3rd of February 2019 08:14:26 PM
I'm not really questioning their ability to represent team GB, have no problem with this, as they have the right to via descent. Just saying only time will tell if Choinski is a low level challenger player at best.
He could well be, possibly will be, or he could crash the top 100. Just seemed a bit early to be making such comparisons.
He is facing some important years, he is 22.5 years, the stats tell us that if you do not break the top 100 by 25, you never will.

James Ward ?

indiana · Tennis legend

Basically the stats tell us nothing of the kind.