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Thanks FW & CD. I am trying to think logically about what the regulations might be but sometimes "logical" and "Spain" don't go well together. The truth is that logistically it would be very difficult to get everyone re-registered by the end of the year as there are just too many people. But why with the old system did they shut down the process for a couple of years and then re-open it at the last minute and insist on rushing everyone through.

As an example of demand, I am trying to get my driving license switched over as my UK license (albeit an EU valid one) will become invalid on 1st Jan next year. As things stand, there is a waiting list of over 3 months at "trafico" for an appointment to obtain the new license. At this stage, it is just a switch, but if the change is not made by the end of the year, I will have to go through the whole process of a driving test and written exam next year to obtain the Spanish license.

Hopefully the government here will see the impossibility of everyone getting the new T.I.E document by the end of the year and will allow more time. My current Residency is for a 5 year period (valid from when I obtained it earlier this year), so if they eventually decide that I simply have to apply for the new certificate when that expires, I can live with that. But their problem is those who already have permanent residency. How do they put a similar time limit on that for the changeover of documents ?

It is all a big mess.

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Nothing to helpfully add other than wish you all the best, Bob.

So many sad consequences ...

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Purely coincidentally - and remember, Bob, France and Spain obviosuly have no connection, so there's no reason it has to be the same - but....

I've literally just been told that a very similar thing is happening in France.

Everyone who doesn't have a full 10 year residents card has to re-apply, no matter what permit they've got.

And, in France at least, unfortunately, everyone has to apply by June 2021 (not when the other one expires).

As said, no reason it's the same but .......

Fingers crossed for you

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Hope it works out for you Bob, really do.

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Dddd sometimes I forget this is happening and those are happier times. Im ready for any and all failures of brexit to be blamed on COVID19 because accountability is not something this government does. Was a stupid idea. Still a stupid idea, but own the libs I guess

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Although I have a very low opinion of this government I never thought it would sink this low.

Northern Ireland minister, Brandon Lewis, has just stood up in the HoC commons and admitted that the legislation the government is proposing will "break international law".

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1303311625643008000

But apparently, that is OK because it is only breaking "specific and limited" bits of it.

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Bleak times with covid running riot and brexit being the omnishambles it is and always was but Ed Miliband cheered me up ever so briefly.

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flamingowings wrote:

Bleak times with covid running riot and brexit being the omnishambles it is and always was but Ed Miliband cheered me up ever so briefly.


Andrea Leadsom on Sky News today was arguing that voting for the bill wasn't breaking the law.  She actually said "the bill only breaks the law when it receives Royal Assent".

Imagine a British PM going to Buckingham Palace and saying:

"Excuse me Your Majesty. Could you please sign off on this bill that allows me to act illegally."

 



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Who cares about laws when you have belief?

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Jajon wrote:

Who cares about laws when you have belief?


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Exactly, they are 'committed' so that's fine then...

A government spokesperson said: The UK is committed to the European convention on human rights and to protecting human rights and championing them at home and abroad, but we believe that this does not require an additional binding international legal commitment."



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John Redwood now saying that trade deals are a luxury and we can manage without them.

twitter.com/johnredwood/status/1306467359293681664

I am lost for words.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

I am lost for words.


 John Redwood singing the Welsh national anthem <3



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Well this is a new interpretation of "taking back control of our borders".

Truck drivers will require a permit to enter Kent and the police will be patrolling the Kent borders.

twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1308755603247034368

That wasn't on the side of a big red bus, was it.

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So we've effectively got martial law, with the army patrolling the streets, enforcing laws that have been given by decree and not by democratic process, and not only a hard border with southern Ireland, but now a hard border with Kent too????

Oh, good one, perfect, bellissimo....

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Checkpoint at the Dartford Crossing ? Well that'll slow the M25 down even more.

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