Week 12 - ITF ($15K) - Tel Aviv, Israel Hard

Peter too · Tennis legend

Week 12 - ITF ($15K) - Tel Aviv, Israel Hard

blob · All-time great

Will Danielle be able to build on last week, and head towards another point, and an eventual ranking, and our 34th ranked player?
Not many active contenders for the spot, despite the crowd on 1 or 2 counters (to which Indiana referered elsewhere recently). There was a time back in 2011-12 when that 'race' was quite a good one , as well as the GB top 10 tussles. Would that it were again.
We do OK in terms of number of ranked players, but, as ever, lag compared to our peers

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, with noone threatening to join the rankings in the immediate future ( although 14 on one counter there is actually none on two ) Laura S and Manisha F are both set to drop out on 09/04. Next as things currently stand would be young Ola Pitak on 18/06.

Now the grass season is often the source of GB joiners to the rankings but we would be better positioned if we had players on 2 counters. Would be great if Danielle can give us one such player for starters

brendan · Strong Club Player

blimey I'd forgotten about Manisha, wonder what happened to her

paulisi · Tennis legend

brendan wrote:
blimey I'd forgotten about Manisha, wonder what happened to her

Retired -knee problems. Studying now

indiana · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
brendan wrote:
blimey I'd forgotten about Manisha, wonder what happened to her
Retired -knee problems. Studying now

Oh I had missed that

She certainly was a fighter in some very long matches and did for a time look potential top 500 at least.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Laura Deigman is also studying I think, so looks like she has packed up the tour.

blob · All-time great

Aw!

Thanks to both Manisha & Laura for the hours watching far flung leaderboards tick by point-by-point, and best wishes for whatever their futures hold.

blob · All-time great

Danielle has now beaten 3 ranked players in the last 7 days.

QR2: Danielle DALEY (GBR) UNR defeated Mary CLOSS (USA) [q5] 1151 6-2 6-4

QR2: Amelia STUART (GBR) UNR lost to Maya TAHAN (ISR) UNR 0-6 1-6

FQR: Danielle DALEY (GBR) UNR v. Pauline WUARIN (SUI) UNR (=CH)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Amelia Stuart is Liam Broady's girlfriend, is she not?

And, yes, well done to Danielle - she played a bit of juniors recently with Destinee, I remember. And a bit of British Tour. But seems to be going about things her own way. Good luck to her in qualifying.

The Realist · Junior player

blob wrote:
Aw!
Thanks to both Manisha & Laura for the hours watching far flung leaderboards tick by point-by-point, and best wishes for whatever their futures hold.

I heard a rumour they were both going to Nottingham University in the autumn

Michael D · All-time great

The Realist wrote:
blob wrote:
Aw!
Thanks to both Manisha & Laura for the hours watching far flung leaderboards tick by point-by-point, and best wishes for whatever their futures hold.
I heard a rumour they were both going to Nottingham University in the autumn

Good luck to both of them. Manisha I really felt for since I think she was injured almost immediately after winning her first 15k (then 10k) tournament in 2016. She was out for months, and in fact though she played a few matches last year and regained her ranking, she never really played full time again.

Strongbow · All-time great

Manisha and Laura D, along with Anna B were players that almost got to 600. Don't have any at the moment cry

After Suzy L there's no-one below 1000 hmm

Michael D · All-time great

Strongbow wrote:
Manisha and Laura D, along with Anna B were players that almost got to 600. Don't have any at the moment
After Suzy L there's no-one below 1000

No, that's the group that's disappeared off our map with no UK 15ks. They can't progress up the rankings any longer, unless they have someone behind them with long pockets. The last two to bridge that gap are Emily Appleton = Sky sponsor, and Fran Jones = bags of talent. Alicia is still hovering. Unless she can up her ranking soon, no doubt she will disappear too. Emily Arb is then wisely at college, and after that there is? Olivia Nicholls played last week, got a sole singles point, won the doubles, and withdrew this week.

I wonder if anyone in the LTA is doing this kind of analysis and draws the one or two obvious conclusions? Or cares? They way they can put on one or two Challengers at the drop of a hat to suit Andy M (and perhaps Dan), but cannot get 15k tournaments hosted for women, probably not. It's going to be one trend to watch this year, whether ANY other woman manages to bridge this gap. The number of ranked women we have is going to start to take a big hit, beginning with these two falling off, and with it proving very hard for anyone other than well funded players, of whom there are few, to replace them.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I'm sure that, on a linear basis, the LTA couldn't give two hoots.
If putting on 15ks means that players like Jazzamay get ranked 800 or so, instead of not getting ranked at all, probably makes not a whit of difference to them.
In fact, it probably backs up their argument that they're not worth it.

But my argument would be that tennis is not linear, the benefits cannot be calculated so cleanly. Having more ranked players means more clubs, families, friends, coaches, other players, sponsors, events, all more directly connected to high level tennis. And this feeds through to the health of tennis in the country (and, thereby, results).