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Property developers and the death of non league football clubs


Boreham Wood have worked really hard to claw their way up the the non league pyramid. The club is well run and the Chairman and manager have committed themselves for years and are trying to do things the right way. Their problem is that the town is on the outskirts of London with excellent transport links so most football fans support Arsenal, Tottenham or Watford. I really hope this latest success and tv exposure will help them get more local supporters through the turnstiles.

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Boreham Wood are a top side. They are competing at the top of league with chairmen who have very deep pockets.
Not sure how Boreham wood survive. They have a very small spporter base and could only muster 1300 fans for their biggest ever match

I think this shows the standards are very high in Non League. We have seen a big gulf between National League and National League N, although Kiddy did our league proud on Sat (they are full time) nearly turning over West Ham


 I am conflicted about the success of Boreham Wood, they survived COVID because of the way the National League carved up the support they had from government grants to their members effectively rewarding clubs with benefactors and penalising clubs with a robust business model.

The National League board made up predominantly of individuals who fund their clubs did not take into account income lost through gate receipts ie the basis of a sustainability and Boreham Wood who are the least sustainable got by far the biggest grant per fan. Non league football behind closed doors without fans is total nonsense. Dover who behaved as a business cutting their clothe accordingly & cancelling fixtures received an enormous fine & points deduction condemning them to relegation.

 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14479914/dover-athletic-punished-covid/amp/ 



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So looks like Stockport are virtually guaranteed promotion with Oldham and S****horpe almost certain to be relegated.
Dover, Weymouth and King's Lynn look like they are relegated with Kings Lynn likely to be in the North and the other 2 to the South

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paulisi wrote:

So looks like Stockport are virtually guaranteed promotion with Oldham and S****horpe almost certain to be relegated.
Dover, Weymouth and King's Lynn look like they are relegated with Kings Lynn likely to be in the North and the other 2 to the South


Oldham? It's looking a lot worse for them having lost 5 in a row, following a spell of 8 games unbeaten prior to that, but they are only 3 points adrift of Stevenage who themselves have only picked up 3 points from their last 9 matches (all draws), and Oldham have the slightly better goal difference - they also play each other next Saturday. Unless I'm missing an incoming points deduction, or an injury crisis or something?

Carlisle weren't looking great a few weeks ago, but after sacking their 2nd manager of the season, they brought back Paul Simpson and he subsequently won 5 of his 6 matches to pull well clear of the drop.

 

 



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Non League Day today - if you haven't got anything to do, go and watch your local side.

I'm looking at nipping over to Cammel Laird for a NWCL div 1 South - step 6. Just a fiver and another new ground

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Att 57
Made up of family and officials.
Pretty average end of season affair, which got a bit niggly at the end as the ref lost control.

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North West Counties promotion is pretty much decided.
Macclesfield won the premier with some huge gates many over 4000
Bury won the North - another very well supported club with gates over 1000
West Didsbury & Chorlton won the North - they are fast becoming the Dulwich of the North and getting very good crowds of 600+

South Manchester football seems to be booming( it used to be East Manchester) with WD&C, the two Wythenshawe teams all going well.
Play off matcges very soon - the other well supported club are IOM with gates around 1500

Lots of reorganisation at non league, so plenty of clubs that should be relegated getting reprieves and quite a few new clubs coming up from step 7 to step 6

AFC St Helens, Ashville, Stockport Gregorians seem likely to go up to step 6 subject to ground grading. One team per feeder league that finishes highest( in top 5) and applies

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FA Trophy final should see a huge crowd

Wrexham v Bromley

Wrexham have a huge following, Bromley is fairly local.


Automatic promotion across the league should almost certainly be settled by Easter Monday.
Stockport are running away with National League.
Brackley & Gateshead are neck and neck in the North
Maidstone have the upper hand in the south from Dorking.

NPL - Buxton lead South Shields
Isthmian - Worthing are almost up
Southern C - Banbury promoted
Southern S - 4 way fight.

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I see the Derby Derby is getting some attention in the press.
For those not aware it is Buxton v Matlock. Well over 2000 at Matlock in the reverse fixture and Buxton are chasing the tile, Matlock the playoffs.

Could see close to 3000.

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A warm welcome to non league football to S****horpe

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paulisi wrote:

A warm welcome to non league football to S****horpe


Is my memory playing tricks on me, or was their most famous player a certain I. T. Botham



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You are correct in that he made a few appearance for them when players could play two professional sports at the same time.

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Over in the very strong Northern League - North Shields have claimed the title.
There are a few steps behind their counter parts in South Shields, but are well supported for their level - step 6, regularly getting 300-400

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Bob in Spain wrote:
paulisi wrote:

A warm welcome to non league football to S****horpe


Is my memory playing tricks on me, or was their most famous player a certain I. T. Botham


 Kevin Keegan and Ray Clemence both joined Liverpool from S****horpe 



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Isle of Man won both their playoff matches in step 6 in front of 3000 crowds and will be promoted to step 5

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