Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

brendan · Strong Club Player

RE: Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

brendan wrote:
BBC's live coverage from the 3rd qualifying round of the FA CUp will be Christchurch v Dulwich Hamlet

I thought it would be, level 9 at home to level 6. Honeytrap for the TV guys!

Oakland should be pleased

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I am dont know much about Christchurch this season but there is a massive gulf between the level the two sides play at, Step 5 (16 soonish parallel leagues) to Step 2 (Just 2).

As I am not able to travel as a Hamlet fan I will be watching step 4 CVPM already 4 games into their FA Cup journey in the flesh take on Averley, evenly matched should be a corker, the millers have had no easy draws but a strong start winning the first (step 4 oppo) 6-0, second (Step 4) 3-1 and third 1-5 away against a step 3 side.

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Friday 9th of October 2020 09:26:22 PM

paulisi · Tennis legend

Your lucky you can get to watch matches.
Southport's game was called off last minute as Kettering had an outbreak.
Bootle, Litherland, Prescot all told to stop football for two weeks and only Marine had fans in Merseyside yesterday as far as I'm aware.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Yes, I know but realistically cant see the game open to fans for long there is direct correlation between the prevalence of disease in the local population and the number of games off because players are sick. Personally I dont feel it is sustainable if it gets above 100 per 100k some areas in the North & North West are 2-5 times that. I cant see spectators being allowed for the remainder of this year and thats an optimistic view.

There is great variability as to how fans behave at games but about 50% of the time you see groups of 10-100 fans bouncing along drinking, singing and shouting, voluntarily standing in tight groups as if everythings normal. That is with gates of 100-400. Players still celebrate with pile ons and group hugs. I honestly feel if everyone was completely committed to doing it properly we could definitely keep the game going with responsible fans, players and officials socially distancing. Unfortunately from what I have seen only the volunteers have insight and the responsible thing to do is shut down when the prevalence of COVID gets above 100 per 100k on an upward trend.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Second biggest ever crowd I have seen at Cray Valley Papermills despite the awful weather, a gate of 301 saw a quality game against Averley. Cray had more of an attacking threat in the first half just shading it although Averley robust and direct throughout. Cray scored just after half time and then parked the bus pretty effectively limiting Averley to set pieces and shots from the edge of the box. Crays pace and guile paid dividends 10 minutes from the end a slide rule pass picking out Denzel Gayle whose lightening and I mean lightening, break down the left to the byline resulted in an accurate cross and tap in. Cant believe it a win away from the first round proper!

Dulwich Hamlet also won through but it took penalties against step 5 Christchurch in an underwhelming red button clash. Understandably Hamlet having played very little football thus far are scratching around a bit for form also requiring penalties in the last round to beat Corinthian Casuals of the Isthmian Premier.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Cup draw at 13:00 hoping CVPM get a step 4 or 3 side at home. It is amazing that they have even a sniff of getting into the first round proper!! Although Maldon & Tiptree did the Isthmian league North proud last season knocking out Orient & running Newport close.

Hamlet just need to avoid a National League side, makes such a difference to your chance of progressing being in the NLS, two games and likely really its one win against decent opposition & the first round proper beckons.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Southport went out on pens to full time big spenders South Shields.

Far play to Skem who are the lowest ranked side into Q4.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Congratulations to Basingstoke Town FC who are back in Basingstoke admittedly they have lost their old home but tremendous efforts by the club

twitter.com/jakiteriyaki/status/1317122914169311234

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Oakland2002 wrote:
Congratulations to Basingstoke Town FC who are back in Basingstoke admittedly they have lost their old home but tremendous efforts by the club

twitter.com/jakiteriyaki/status/1317122914169311234

Great to see, I used to know the chairman, the late Gordon Hill, owned basingstoke press, back in the 80s and early 90s. Lovely chap.

paulisi · Tennis legend

The NLN like the NL is heavily disrupted by positive tests.
Gloucester are top having smashed Blyth. Gloucester have spent heavily over the summer. I assume they have a new investor.
Boston, Bradford PA, Kiddy, Leamington and Kettering are all at various stages of isolation, with some having just played once.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

JonH comes home wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:
Congratulations to Basingstoke Town FC who are back in Basingstoke admittedly they have lost their old home but tremendous efforts by the club

twitter.com/jakiteriyaki/status/1317122914169311234
Great to see, I used to know the chairman, the late Gordon Hill, owned basingstoke press, back in the 80s and early 90s. Lovely chap.

You had me worried had to look up & check not the Gordon Hill who played on the wing for Man Ure and was the most elusive sticker in my 1976 Panini sticker album. He was also from that south West M25 corridor area, amazing career of 20yrs from Staines to Nova Scotia via Millwall, Manchester United, Finland & Northwich Victoria.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

paulisi wrote:
The NLN like the NL is heavily disrupted by positive tests.
Gloucester are top having smashed Blyth. Gloucester have spent heavily over the summer. I assume they have a new investor.
Boston, Bradford PA, Kiddy, Leamington and Kettering are all at various stages of isolation, with some having just played once.

Its going to be a pigs ear of a season all over I feel particularly for the teams in densely populated large conurbations

paulisi · Tennis legend

The funding has come through for NL clubs with 36k a month for the bigger supported clubs in NLN and S and 30k for the rest.
Dulwich get 36k
Southport get 30k

Chester are moaning as they are claiming it is not fair and not covering their Match day revenue.
In reality, Chester are back in a financial mess. Their benefactor walked in the summer and they cleared out quite a few high earners.
They still have a big wage bill and did raise 100k through supporter donations towards the playing squad.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

It is interesting if you look in terms of the subsidy per fan. Dulwich and York sit bottom of the National League clubs at just over £16 per fan per month. Borehamwood top at £161 per fan per month. Big subsidy no fans, the subsidy is meant to replace lost income generated from restricting fan access due to COVID. It does nothing towards encouraging a sustainable model for NL football. Our ladies lost to Leyton Orient in the cup on Saturday in front of 550 fans which is our highest ever gate for womens football.

Would love there to be a non league giant killing at Maidenhead on Saturday, CVPM could be bringing Sunderland back to the Badgers sports ground nestled in behind Tops Tiles on the roundabout where (pilgrims used to tread on their way to Canterbury down) the A20 meets the Sauf Circular. The irony is with no fans in it would be the perfect setting, could be a high risk afternoon for the locals tending their allotments down the allotments end!

-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Thursday 22nd of October 2020 04:29:11 PM