Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

paulisi · Tennis legend

Property developers and the death of non league football clubs

indiana · Tennis legend

Ah, I finally got it. PPG is points per game. It is a bit early for me.

Harrogate are making out that they are very happy to have the opportunity for promotion through play-offs.

Certainly true if offered it at the start of the season, and still relatively so. But especially after it became clearer that League 2 intended to relegate one club, surely a fair bit of them went darn, as no doubt they were hoping for no play-offs and the top 2 in the National League being promoted on PPG. In their own hands but odds against.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Ah, I finally got it. PPG is points per game. It is a bit early for me.

Harrogate are making out that they are very happy to have the opportunity for promotion through play-offs.

Certainly true if offered it at the start of the season, and still relatively so. But especially after it became clearer that League 2 intended to relegate one club, surely a fair bit of them went darn, as no doubt they were hoping for no play-offs and the top 2 in the National League being promoted on PPG. In their own hands but odds against.

Town's narrative has always been that they are happy to see play offs, bring it on. Privately, they clearly wanted to go straight up; Town have a good backer and no money worries so not playing again would suit them fine.

However, if truth be told, as you say they would have taken play offs at start of season. Not sure if it will be the 6 team play offs originally envisaged, Town will get a bye if that is the case

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Ah, I finally got it. PPG is points per game. It is a bit early for me.

Harrogate are making out that they are very happy to have the opportunity for promotion through play-offs.

Certainly true if offered it at the start of the season, and still relatively so. But especially after it became clearer that League 2 intended to relegate one club, surely a fair bit of them went darn, as no doubt they were hoping for no play-offs and the top 2 in the National League being promoted on PPG. In their own hands but odds against.

Article confirming Weaver is happy!

https://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/sport/football/happy-harrogate-town-boss-simon-weaver-confident-national-league-play-offs-will-take-place-2882253#gsc.tab=0

paulisi · Tennis legend

So Fylde and Ebbsfleet get a reprieve - both have big benefactors.

York will feel very hard done by. They were top of the league and with only one up now miss out.
Either N or S will end up with one team short(Bury)

paulisi · Tennis legend

All change again as NL reverse their original decision based on non existing government advice.
Playoffs for N & S, Fylde and Ebbsfleet relegated

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Never been to Ebbsfleet. Still a little short of visiting all NLS grounds although not a fan of plastic pitches (could be a problem moving forward) so might never make it to Oxford & Dorking. For half of the remaining four I have less of an excuse as I can get to both Ebbsfleet & Tonbridge by bike now I have been forced into serious training (commuting). Slightly gutted Folkestone didnt come up, would have been a challenge! Frustratingly the mighty Cray Valley Papermills would now be Isthmian league Premier on PPG, slightly conflicted as gates rarely break a ton & benefactor dependent which is not my preferred model 4 non league football.

With the limits on attendances due to the demands of social distancing Hamlet are stuffed despite normally being able to set a very competitive playing budget from revenue unless there is a salary cap.

paulisi · Tennis legend

I've been to Ebbsfleet, but it was a while ago. The ground is quite decent.
It wasn't the greatest neighbourhood.....

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I have only cycled past but the front of the main stand looks new and fit for the football league, lots of money going into developments around the ground which needs significant investment not all of the southeast is minted, the Medway towns have a lot in common with many northern Industrial seaside towns despite their proximity to London. Lots of decent non league football though as non of the conurbations (Except Gillingham) across Kent are quite big enough to sustain a league side.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Play off dates sorted, July 25th is Harrogates date with destiny!

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53291764

My concern is that whoever we play will have played 1 match already, so that feels like a disadvantage. Home tie of course, but not sure how much that helps right now, although it will be in our artificial pitch, of course.

Not sure if Town can organise a friendly pre 25th, if that is allowed, but hope we can.

paulisi · Tennis legend

They can, but the only teams available are those in playoffs...

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
They can, but the only teams available are those in playoffs...

Makes sense, the obvious match would be York city who are in the North play offs and local to town.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Furlough pay back will have a major benefit for non league teams.
For those on contract, this is just free money for the clubs - Southport have furloughed all players. Some are out of contract and will leave before the season starts.
The others - I reckon 12 will mean that we can cover wages for a fortnight.

Southport are actually quite well placed financial. We have had several new sponsors come on board, a new deal with Everton u-23 and we can open the bar.
150 members have joined paying a monthly subscription with season tickets not on sale yet. Also had significant donations.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Good to hear, viable non league clubs really are community entities its not all about the glory although a bit is nice but more about the routine. Although step 5 get the impression that the future is much healthier at Worcester than it has been for a decade or so.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Looks like BT will cover all National league playoff matches Inc N & S.