Week 4 - Challenger (€64,000+H) - Open de Rennes, France (indoor hard)

Sim · County player

RE: Week 4 - Challenger (€64,000+H) - Open de Rennes, France (indoor hard)

indiana · Tennis legend

I never understood the Cam assumption by some, more especially because it was on clay, but now his early season general form ...

Though not sure that Liam has too much clay experience ? I did watch him lose to Marcus on Edinburgh clay a few years ago and it didn't seem problematic at that level, just Marcus was better on the day. Liam seems at least to be in pretty decent form and he did beat Dustin Brown WR 129 in R1, a bit closer level to these Spanish gentlemen.

Calling Jay ? - at least with quite a bit of fairly recent clay experience if far from spectacular future results. I saw these Italian and Spanish clay futures as good development tools rather than any particular preference for clay. But with now 5 man teams will they even have a further player there? Maybe not and as I say Jay's clay form isn't that strong,

So I could well see it being Liam. Again, I think much may depend on how they look in the build up. Leon may well react to that as he has before and especially as he must have quite a few questions in his mind on this occasion.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 24th of January 2018 09:35:17 PM

SuperT · Futures qualifying

Sim wrote:
JonH wrote:
With the way Cam is playing at the moment maybe Liam will get his chance in the Spain tie??!
Bit of a step up from beating WR336 to say WR21 but it is a huge ask for whoever is picked as GB no.2

It's a big step up for either of them, but having watched both their matches this week, I personally would pick Liam over Cam. He played really well today and had a big win over Dustin Brown, whereas I thought Cam's game was all over the place in Newport

indiana · Tennis legend

Liam's 17 ranking points so far here cover the total of 16 points due off on 29/01. Nothing more due off until 19/03 so real chance to close in on his CH 158.

Very short term he could even pass his CH this week. A final would probably do it, a title certainly would.

And as the year progresses, even if not done so by March his points are still very much second half of last year weighted.

I imagine it's more where he is by the end of the year that will be a target and that will no doubt be somewhere beyond his CH. Last year his target was WR 150 and from where he had been the previous year he did not at all badly to get as close as he did,

Michael D · All-time great

Liam's target this year has to be the top 100. It could be an interesting tussle to see whether he or Cam will get there first. Although Cam is way ahead in terms of current ranking, I'm rather in agreement with SuperT that Liam seems to have started the year with his game in much better order than Cam.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Turn-up for the books:

QF: (WC) Manuel Guinard (FRA) WR 713 (CH = 712 on New Year's Day) vs Liam Broady WR 172

Guinard beat Gulbis in three - & he's relatively local: born in Saint-Malo.

Jaffa · Challenger level

This won't be as easy as it looks, that's two very good results for Guinard this week after he battered Elias, the third seed in the first round.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Liam is underway and a break up.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Sounds like a decent size crowd although not many of them cheering for Liam.

Live stream here.

livestream.com/ATP/events/8029729

Liam still up that break at *4-3

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

First set in the bag at 6-4

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Opening hold for Guinard at the start of the 2nd, who then promptly calls an MTO. Looks like right wrist or forearm.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QF: Liam Broady WR 172 defeated (WC) Manuel Guinard (FRA) WR 713 by 4 & 4 smile

seagull · Hall of fame

Wahoo

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Very solid performance from Liam. Seemed to play controlled tennis today and just waited for Guinard to make the mistakes. On serve, Liam didn't fave a single BP and only lost 12 points on serve in the entire match. That's what can happen with a 77% 1st serve %age.

Crowd did their best to give Liam a taster of the atmosphere he will face next week in DC. He coped well with that today too.

Jiwan · Club Coach

Def Liam over Cam on current form / clay