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2018 - GB ITF tournaments


I suspect you are making incorrect assumptions.
Most of these clubs are now profit driven and the lack of income over a week, will not be covered by the costs of hosting.

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Wasn't entirely sure where to post this but noticed itf 2019 calendar is up for 1St quarter, we have two m25 events on the list for Barnstaple and Glasgow.

No women's events listed on itf website.

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Wasn't Shrewsbury on there for the ladies?

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There's a W60 at Shrewsbury 11th-17th Feb, and a W25 in Glasgow 18th-24th Feb - and they are on the ITF calendar

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All the pre-Wimbledon grass 100Ks are confirmed in their usual slots on the LTA site, except for Southsea.

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the addict wrote:

There's a W60 at Shrewsbury 11th-17th Feb, and a W25 in Glasgow 18th-24th Feb - and they are on the ITF calendar


 ok, I must have missed those,  I'll check again !



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I see the women's ones now. Reading on phone on train so that's my excuse

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According to a Stuart Fraser tweet, the Lta have confirmed in 2019 there will be no 15k events at all, with 8 25k events, and 5 premier level British tour events. Effectively cutting out the transition tour.

Not sure Re women's side and can't find any detail other than the aforementioned tweet

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Not the first country to shun the15ks. I dont quite get the understanding of the whole situation. Is this because the 15ks are worthless or for other reasons. I feel that this reform will take a good couple of seasons to bed in. Still cant make my mind up on the new system. There are elements I like, like the top juniors getter a better chance but on the same token if you really give Challengers a go but fail you could drop out of them and also have no ITF ranking. All rather strange at the moment.

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Madadman wrote:

Not the first country to shun the15ks. I dont quite get the understanding of the whole situation. Is this because the 15ks are worthless or for other reasons. I feel that this reform will take a good couple of seasons to bed in. Still cant make my mind up on the new system. There are elements I like, like the top juniors getter a better chance but on the same token if you really give Challengers a go but fail you could drop out of them and also have no ITF ranking. All rather strange at the moment.


 that is the danger as you say, no safety net for those who try to make it as a pro and have a bad season. Golf has an answer in awarding tour cards to a select group and then renewing the card each year with players able to play in Tour qualifiers at year end to move up or move down accordingly from main tour to Challenger equivalent.

I wonder if we could end up seeing tennis go a similar route - ie a protected group of main tour players (albeit 500-750 players) and some annual system of moving up or down, which this Transition Tour process is part of the way towards from what I can see . The lower pros would like it as it protects a little of their income for at least 12 months...  

 



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JonH wrote:

According to a Stuart Fraser tweet, the Lta have confirmed in 2019 there will be no 15k events at all, with 8 25k events, and 5 premier level British tour events. Effectively cutting out the transition tour.

Not sure Re women's side and can't find any detail other than the aforementioned tweet


 

25Ks are transition tour events on the men's side. 

But I can well imagine them cutting out 15Ks for the women too, given they already had done so in 2018, therefore cutting out the women's transition tour.



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www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-tournament/info.aspx
The above is an example of an itf entry. Still trying to understand this all but it looks like atp rankings still get first dibs above an itf ranking in the transition tour.

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Madadman wrote:

www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-tournament/info.aspx
The above is an example of an itf entry. Still trying to understand this all but it looks like atp rankings still get first dibs above an itf ranking in the transition tour.


 Don't know if this is helpful to you, Madadman, but with a LOT of help from other, more knowledgeable forumites on another thread, I ended up with this list:

 

 Draw of 32:


17 direct based on WTA / SE / JE

5 direct based on ITF

4 direct wildcards

6 qualifiers 


24 quali draw based on WTA


reserve list for the quali draw (still based on WTA)

reserve list for the 5 ITF MD places (based on ITF) 



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It looks like the mens Transition Tour events will work the same as for womens side on the ITF, so at least some synergy there.

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For Challenger events, on the mens side, the new 48 draw structure looks like it will be comprised:

37 (ATP) / 4 (ITF) Wild Cards: 5 Qualifiers: 2 Special Exempts: 0

SE's take away from the 37 ATP players (eg 1 SE and ATp players go down to 36. ;

question - so if the wild cards go to top ITF listed entries x 4, does that mean there will no longer be any space for local wild cards ie the home town players etc?



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