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UTR Tennis Tournaments (in Britain)


The Optimist wrote:

Your UTR ranking is affected by most matches you play, not just those in UTR events - domestic LTA tournaments, junior and senior itf, WTA, ATP. And yes the pricing is steep but I think I read somewhere that you are guaranteed several matches (someone please correct me if I am wrong on this last point). And they also claim that because your opponents should (initially at least) have a similar UTR to yourself then these matches ought to be competitive and not completely one-sided.



-- Edited by The Optimist on Tuesday 20th of November 2018 12:05:13 PM


Yes, that's how I understood the format too - a progressive draw (as all money tournaments should be - the British Tour system is ridiculous) so competitive matches and a consolation draw or whatever.

Which is great. Especially for a country that has so few options in terms of playing competitive tennis. More power to their elbow.

But the pricing just seems very dear. Especially compared to similar events elsewhere.

Add: Nothing to do with Wales, I don't think, Jon. Just the next one is in Cardiff. All the others have been elsewhere in England (from what I can remember)



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 20th of November 2018 12:20:06 PM

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is UTR and the Progress Tour driven out of Wales? I did a google search and it takes you to a link to LTA Wales, and referencing the Cardiff event from last year. The website didnt appear to list other events that I could see, so I wasnt sure where it is based largely and who typically plays - are there any lists of past results or entry lists that anyone is aware of?

The other question I had is where do they fund it from? Is it self funding from the entries or is there a headline sponsor (Progress ?) or individual event sponsors - it talks about 20k of prizemoney , presumably covering all events over the season?

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No it's not out of Wales. It's run by Barry Fulcher, in partnership with Sarah Borwell at Tennis Smart (US College Tennis Recruiter). He's a coach on the south coast, formerly from Norfolk. I guess Tennis Smart sponsor an element, UTR sponsor an element and then they can also take on other sponsors. 38 does sound steep, but that's very similar to what they pay in the US for UTR tournaments, I've seen $50 and $60 entry fees for the UTR tournaments aiming at US College players over there. Some I have seen have 128 man draws so a very decent amount of entry fees. I would rather have highly priced competitions, than no competitions at all. Plaudits for them taking the initiative.

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From Barry Fulcher:

"Samm Butler proved too strong for Marshall Tutu in The Ellesmere Progress Tour Premier Event, walking away with the 600 winners cheque. Both players pictured with the college Tennis Director Stephen Welti. Entries open for the next event @ Millfield www.courthive.com/t/7c604101-fb2b-4a1f-a310-a0281d04a648 ?"

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Has anyone else noticed the UTR algorithm appears to have changed and impacted players UTR's?

I have not done extensive research, but seems to be a biggish drop (0.5+) compared to this time last year for many players, including those playing on college teams, even those playing #4-#6 on very strong teams.......... Seems easier to maintain a high UTR by only playing ITF's or other high UTR college players and avoiding players with a lower UTR , even if win easily!







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I was interested to see that the event in Sutton in July is offering the winner a WC to Chiswick 25K.
www.facebook.com/TennisSmart/posts/2157674930976742

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On the utr website they talk about negotiating with the LTA to get wildcard to British tour events which in turn link to WC to itf events, but that seems like a step beyond

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dont come on this site really, but just stumbled across this thread again whilst looking for something, so thought Id respond to some of the queries above.

The Progress Tour was set up to provide more earning opportunities for players - the UTR was used a means of underpinning the events.

The prize money is funded by sponsors of individual events, entry fees and in some cases, my own pocket.

The tour is run by me alone, and Im based in Brighton, and with zero budget (there is no support from the UTR, the LTA or other organisations), I rely on the goodwill of clubs/academies and contacts within the game to secure venues/facilities. Generally, clubs are very keen to host as they see the benefit of a different type of event, and Im hugely appreciate of clubs/venues that host these events, as it simply wouldnt be possible to run events at all without them. Im also grateful to event and tour sponsors - from Tennis Smart to ISE, or local coaching companies and clubs who add funds to bolster the prize money - the summer swing events going on at the moment are an example of which. Sarah (Tennis Smart) has been great, and has been the biggest supporter of the tour, and a huge help in getting word out to players.

The 38 entry fee is more expensive than most domestic events, but at each of the main Progress Tour events, players are given three matches regardless of whether they win or lose, which I believe offers good value. There are also workshops and additional learning opportunities for players at the events. An equivalent event abroad such as Ten-Pro charge 95 for 4 matches, and ITF entry fees in the UK and further afield are $US40-60, so 38 i believe is reasonable. All referee fees, equipment, balls, court fees (where applicable) have to be paid from this same pot, so the entry fee has to allow somewhat for this so it doesnt bankrupt me. Additionally, there are a number of one day events, giving two full level-based matches which are charged at 21, which again offers good value.

The wild-card feeder event for Chiswick $25k was result of direct liaison between myself and the LTA performance team, and nothing to do with the UTR. It has to be good thing where British players earn their way into events by merit, and Im keen to do more of these going forward.

There is a new doubles wild-card challenge Im running at Sutton T&SC in early August - a one day shootout event which will yield 1500 for the winning pair and a WC into the doubles at the Murray Trophy Glasgow ATP Challenger event in September.

For anyone keen to know more, worth a visit to courthive.com/live/PROGRESS for all forthcoming events, and theprogresstour.com/ for more background info.

My passion is to create more earning opportunities for British players on home soil, and going into next year, I hope to offer more of these. Hope this has helped clear up some of what Ive read above...


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Thanks Barry, keep up the great work

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Thank you for what u r doing. British tennis needs this for sure. Too many quit the game I wish you success and hope your success continues

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From Barry's twitter feed re the Sutton Progress Tour event:

The Tennis Smart showcase Progress Tour at Sutton T&SC

92 Players began. 8 remain.

Main Draw SF from 9.30am
Alistair Gray V Marcus Walters
Emile Hudd V Sam Bossem

Female Bonus SF
Suzy Larkin V Tiegen Aitkin
Nell Miller V Tamara Malazonia

1600 + $25k WCs at stake


Nice to see some of those names.

And great that he's negotiated the wildcards.

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The Sutton event was won by Alistair Gray, who now has a wildcard into the ATP event in Newport

He beat Emile Hudd in the finals, 3-6 6-3 11-9

Sam Bossem withdrew from the semis and the other losing semi-finalist was Marcus Walters.

In the female bonus draw final, Suzy Larkin beat Nell Miller.


The Dukes Meadows event was held a couple of days later.

Clay Crawford beat Giles Hussey in the final, 4-6 7-6(7) 10-8

Dominic Hudson and Marcus Walters were the losing SFs.

In the women's bonus draw, again Suzy defeated Nell.

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I wonder how UTR will continue to compete against the new International Tennis Number. I read that the ITF/GB/FR/US did consider it as an option, however decided that they didn't want a corporation to control a worldwide rating system. I also read that Clubspark are going to manage the new system, this company already provide free websites and club management software to all LTA registered venues. Seemingly a major coup for them, who recently received over 2m in venture capital funding from Foresight Group.

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Don't know if this quite counts as UTR but the Murray Doubles Challenge takes place today (and seems to be Barry Fuller's baby so should go here whatever).

Lots of our college boys, and other good players, all involved.

And there's THREE THOUSAND pounds in prize money - 3kbiggrin

I think it's 1500 for winning team, 800 for finalists, and 350 for SF team. And kit prizes too.

Also, an ATP 80 MD WC on offer.....


There seems to be four groups of four pairs:

Jamie Murray Group

Ben Jones/Charlie Broom
Tutu/Wright
Beecher/Brookes
Golesworthy/Mackinlay


Fleming Group

Brandon Murphy/James Story
Davis/Summers
Pudney/Caddies
Morgan Phillips/Alex Ward (the 'black horse' pairing, says Barry )


Jonny Marray Group

Dias/Mark Whitehouse
Hyman/Carroll
Dan Little/Sacha Modica
Tom Hands/Harry Wendelken


Dom Inglot Group

George Houghton/Mike Shaw
Jordan Gray/Higgins
Henry Patten (former NCAA doubles champion)/Nolan
Bartley/Markiewicz


Good luck to everyone - enjoy !



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 4th of August 2019 10:10:34 AM

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Marshall Tutu & David Wright came out victorious at Sutton. Full results: courthive.com/t/34413032-d3dd-417f-bd28-e4ad6c82c646

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