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Having though a little look at our men's projected rankings and points at 05/08 on OER it has our current top 9 still in these places though in a different order.

However, Evan Hoyt ( plenty to add from 15Ks and 25Ks ) will almost certainly come in for Paul Jubb ( little to add ) as GB #10. Paul will have a relatively big fall. For such a player ( good enough to pick up challenger+ points but limited appearances, particularly at lower levels ) the current ranking system is much more indicative of his level. But I am sure his talent will take him back up and much further in time.



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Yes, in terms of who will benefit when the ranking systems are merged again, it is clearly fair on those who have been out injured and are seeking to climb their way back up the rankings - like Mandy Carreras, or most strikingly in the last week, the Patricia Maria Tig, who reached a WTA final without a ranking, since she'd had to spend all her time at W15 level till then building up her ITF points to get back into W25s and above (as Mandy had done earlier). The final Tig reached was as a WC entrant into the Bucharest tournament, as a Romanian. For such players the dual points system has been unfair.

However for others who will benefit, and here have to indicate Emily App, who so far has still failed to win a W25 MD match, but will shoot back up the rankings into the 500s again with all her W15 points, it is clear she much less deserves the ranking boost. For others, who have been trying to make their way solely at W25 level this year, there will also be some fall, eg Lissy Barnett being one.

It will be interesting to see how things settle down once the reintegrated system has been back in effect after a few months. Paul Jubb I have no doubt will continue to climb upwards, once he accumulates a few more counters.

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Tig hasnt needed to spend all her time at W15 level to get back into W25s and above as she has a PR of 157, which she has entered a number of tournaments with, including Wimbledon.

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Not directly related, but still quite interesting, Tig also had to play pre qualies just to get her QWC into Bucharest (a bit like Sam @ Wimbledon), so had to win 9 matches to make that final which is impressive.


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Women  should  be about level this week due to Katie S and Naiktha - SUI and SVK are up a bit - Men will drop about 30 due to JC's points coming off.

Not many left playing - so I wish them well biggrin



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Could do with Heather and Katie Swan getting some wins this week as provisionally from OER our WTA top 10 total for 05/08 is plunging towards 2100 ( currently down 64 at 2081 ).

I am on record as saying it was being called a bad year for our women far too early when back say in April. But you know what, all in all ( and yes there have been some injury mitigating circumstances and maybe other stuff we don't know ), as we come to the end of July it has overall been a pretty disappointing year.

I was confident, with the age distribution of our top 10 and progress of last year, and even accepting a little second season syndrom, that we would be setting new GB records below 1900 instead of heading near 2100.

Good to have added depth getting into the top 300 ( and further young players ) but the promise of the depth is in the hope that more players really push on towards say the top 100. For there I think lies our common main interest.

Hey, if all get fit and well, find a bit more form, we are well positioned to progress upwards again in the remainder of 2019 and then 2020. Still hopeful in the bit longer term. And it is seriously too early to put a cap on where quite a number of these players might yet get to. Tennis players' progress is rarely linear but let's hope for more GB women moving again in a positive direction.



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GBR nick a place in all the upheaval biggrin Net move for AUT is wrong as they continue to plummet. disbelief



-- Edited by Strongbow on Monday 5th of August 2019 11:09:03 AM

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Harriet, plus Heather with her Toronto QR1 win and Fran with her 25K QF points last week, seem likely to keep us away from the 2100s for another week.

Once the current various pluses and minuses are all totted up, OER has us live still on 2080.

On Monday Fran will be up to GB #9 on 167 points, just ahead of the ( gone missing? ) #10 Katy D on 166 points.

#11 is Sam on 144 points and due to drop 19 points next week, to be replaced by whatever she ends up with from Chiswick. 



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 7th of August 2019 11:54:11 PM

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The country hit hardest by the revised ranking structure is India with massive falls on mens and womens side. One or two other Asian countries hit as well. Not sure structurally what made such as impact to India.

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The country hit hardest by the revised ranking structure is India with massive falls on mens and womens side. One or two other Asian countries hit as well. Not sure structurally what made such as impact to India.


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Strongbow wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

The country hit hardest by the revised ranking structure is India with massive falls on mens and womens side. One or two other Asian countries hit as well. Not sure structurally what made such as impact to India.


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 Wow, a freefall drop in terms of places, not so much in terms of points except those at the lower end of their Top 10. thanks SB



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JonH comes home wrote:
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JonH comes home wrote:

The country hit hardest by the revised ranking structure is India with massive falls on mens and womens side. One or two other Asian countries hit as well. Not sure structurally what made such as impact to India.


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 Wow, a freefall drop in terms of places, not so much in terms of points except those at the lower end of their Top 10. thanks SB


In general, certainly down the rankings players have been adding often quite big points from the now added in 15Ks.

The Indian players clearly haven't been or at least relatively little compared to players previously close to them in the rankings.

I take it that the domestic Indian and some other Asian countries' tournaments are generally 25Ks and above? 



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