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ATP did a rankings update yesterday it seems to include the challenger events that had taken place and allowing itf events to go on. Effective march 16. Dont know if wta done same?

www.atptour.com/en/news/new-fedex-atp-rankings-released-and-frozen



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Yes, the WTA did an update as well. But it hasn't taken account of the last tournaments - Sam is WR204 on 297 points - OER says WR178 on 345 points

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I make it that the GB men have signed off for now on 16/03 up 22 at 1907.

Brydan is into our top 10, personally up 65 to WR 361 and up 26 on Ryan P's previous #10 ranking.

1907 represents the best GB figure since the end of 2017 before Aljaz reverted to Slovenian.

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indiana wrote:

I make it that the GB men have signed off for now on 16/03 up 22 at 1907.

Brydan is into our top 10, personally up 65 to WR 361 and up 26 on Ryan P's previous #10 ranking.

1907 represents the best GB figure since the end of 2017 before Aljaz reverted to Slovenian.


 Good time to sign off then, if there is a good time to sign off!  



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What is this WTA update based on? OER?

The 16/03 WTA rankings on the WTA site itself are for now unchanged from the 09/03 ones.

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indiana wrote:

What is this WTA update based on? OER?

The 16/03 WTA rankings on the WTA site itself are for now unchanged from the 09/03 ones.


 Based on 16/03 OER Live. The ATP will be based on the "Official" OER for 16/03.



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The actual WTA frozen rankings are as per their frozen rankings PDF in he WTA site with GBR up 29 to 2137 at 16/03.

These rankings look right, ie in line with the statement from the ATP & WTA that they would be based on the 09/03 rankings plus any additional points earned ( and minus nothing ). And the ATP rankings are in line with this. 

The OER women's rankings are still taking points off such as Naiktha, Katie S and Katy D. The WTA main rankings page figures just repeat the 09/03 rankings with no points added.

As I said, the correct frozen rankings are as per the WTA PDF:

GBR at 16/03/20 = 2137 (+29), Sam up 24, Katy D up 20 and into the top 10 ( up 8 on Emma's previous top 10 position ).

That frozen figure is our best since 2120 at 09/09/19

 www.wtatennis.com/news/1647027/what-does-a-frozen-ranking-mean-

( contains correct rankings ) 



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Interrstingly the frozen GB women race top 10 total 1680, particularly benefitting just before the freeze from Sam's South Africa 25K title which led to a rise of 127 places from #298 at 09/03 to #171.

So that had been a pretty good start to the year comparative to their ranking total of 2137. 



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Out of the freezer ...

First week of updated WTA rankings and although all the Brits ate still on the same points and Jo, Heather and Harriet have each dropped a place from the frozen rankings, slight gains lower down our top 10 ( I don't know why, maybe other players dropping out of the rankings ) mean we are up 6 from the original 16/03 frozen rankings.

WTA - GBR at 10/08/20 = 2131

Both Jo and Heather have now lost in R1 in WTA Lexington so liable to be a slight overall fall next week as other players make gains

Re the men, still the frozen 16/03 rankings but at some stage our #10 Brydan has somehow lost 3 points ( 106 to 103 ) to drop 6 places in the frozen rankings. And so we are cumulatively down 6 from the original frozen rankings.

ATP revised - GBR at 16/03/20 = 1913



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Out of the freezer ...

First week of updated WTA rankings and although all the Brits ate still on the same points and Jo, Heather and Harriet have each dropped a place from the frozen rankings, slight gains lower down our top 10 ( I don't know why, maybe other players dropping out of the rankings ) mean we are up 6 from the original 16/03 frozen rankings.

WTA - GBR at 10/08/20 = 2131

Both Jo and Heather have now lost in R1 in WTA Lexington so liable to be a slight overall fall next week as other players make gains

Re the men, still the frozen 16/03 rankings but at some stage our #10 Brydan has somehow lost 3 points ( 106 to 103 ) to drop 6 places in the frozen rankings. And so we are cumulatively down 6 from the original frozen rankings.

ATP revised - GBR at 16/03/20 = 1913


 Nice one, Indy. Be interesting to start seeing these again, not sure when it will be worthwhile doing a full update, maybe not every week but post US , French and end of year?



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Yes, maybe just a few full updates as you say, Jon.

Because players aren't dropping points, just potentially adding points where they manage new counters, and of course there will be far less tournaments, week to week movements will be much more limited.



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Will try and do an update sometime next week - but we;ll see smile



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