Week 46 - ATP Tour Finals 2016 - O2, London

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Week 46 - ATP Tour Finals 2016 - O2, London

scottie1 · Futures level

goldfish wrote:
The draw has taken place this afternoon:
John McEnroe group
1 Andy Murray (GB)
2 Stan Wawrinka (SWI)
3 Kei Nishikori (JPN)
4 Marin Cilic (CRO)

Ivan Lendl group
1 Novak Djokovic (SER)
2 Milos Raonic (CAN)
3 Gaël Monfils (FRA)
4 Dominic Thiem (AUS)

(ironic that Andy is not in Lendl's group. Should have waited to see who was number 1 before labelling groups)

I think Andy has a tougher group than Novak

the addict · Tennis legend

Stuart Fraser on Twitter @stu_fraser 2h2 hours ago

Novak Djokovic's head-to-head records against his group opponents:

Raonic - 7-0
Monfils - 13-0
Thiem - 3-0

Bet Novak is pretty pleased at the draw

indiana · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Stuart Fraser on Twitter @stu_fraser 2h2 hours ago

Novak Djokovic's head-to-head records against his group opponents:

Raonic - 7-0
Monfils - 13-0
Thiem - 3-0

Bet Novak is pretty pleased at the draw

Jeepers, but hey that's the past, it's the present that counts.

Raonic injured, Thiem - out of form, Monfils ? - missing from Paris.

Thank you Mr Djokovic for conducting that draw and nice to use shapes rather than the traditional similar balls.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 7th of November 2016 05:38:34 PM

goldfish · Futures qualifying

Agree - couldn't have worked out better for Nole if he'd had free choice.

TMH · Futures qualifying

I can't believe that draw. Essentially flipped a coin and got tails three times in a row. The difference in quality in the two groups is ridiculous. Djokovic should walk out of his group. Murray will do well to get out of his.

the addict · Tennis legend

Well, just for comparison, Andy's H to H

Wawrinka 9-7
Nishikori 7-2
Cilic 11-3

It's going to be tough ............

wolf · Tennis legend

Doubles Group Edberg/Jarryd: Murray/Soares, Bryan/Bryan, Dodig/Melo, Huey/Mirnyi

Doubles Group Fleming/McEnroe: Herbert/Mahut, Lopez/Lopez, Kontinen/Peers, Klaasen/Ram.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Andy has a tougher draw. The difference is Wawrinka who on form is a step up in class from the other 5 and an obvious threat to Novak and Andy.

No Rafa, No Fed I feel this is the start of a new world order in the upper echelons of tennis, the question is how long can Andy and Novak? Keep it up? 2 years perhaps before we have another couple of superstars on the wain and it's all up for grabs, may the bunfight begin. The end of the decade will make for interesting times

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

When was the last time neither Fed nor Rafa featured in this event?

vohor · Grand Slam Champion

Yep, tough old draw for Andy but with no Davis Cup Final distraction this year he'll be fully focussed. Go, Andy :)

DavidC · Tennis legend

First match for Jamie/Bruno is against Huey/Mirnyi Going well so far leading 6-4 3-2* (were a break up in set 2)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Round robin match 1 (Group Edberg/Jarryd): (2) Jamie Murray & Bruno Soares (BRA) CR 7 (4+3) defeated (8) Treat Huey & Max Mirnyi (PHI/BLR) CR 43 (22+21) by 4 & 5

Jan · Hall of fame

indiana · Tennis legend

Raonic seems reasonably recovered after his Paris withdrawal, beating Monfils 6-3 6-4.

Assuming the ATP stats are correct that the points on his serve were 40-11 in his 10 service games, not only did he not face a BP he was never taken to deuce.

Assume the two first match winners meet second match so he should next play Djokovic, who beat Thiem 6-7(10) 6-0 6-2.