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Australian Open 2017 qualifying points


With the big gap after our top 4 to a number of players in the 200s and 300s I thought I would look again this year at how much players appeared to have to do to get into Australian Open qualifying.

WR 250 may be around the target and that is currently on 211 points. Rather optimistically re the cut, WR 270 is currently on 188 points.

How close are our players to these figures with their points 'in the bank' ie taking off these points due off by qualifying entry rankings 19/12/16 ( 4 weeks before first Monday of the main draw ) ?

5. Cameron 150 points

6. Ed 145

7. Liam 137

8. Lloyd 108

9. Alex 106

10. James 90

11. Brydan 73

12. Marcus 72

So Cam, Ed and Liam best placed though still a fair bit to do ( and how much will Cam play? ).

Ed rises from his current actual ranking position since very little to defend. In contrast James drops markedly from his position since he has lots to defend.



-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 25th of September 2016 03:00:59 PM

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Are you claiming that Cam needs 188 points-150 points = 33 points and he may have qualified for Aus Open? and so on?

 

 



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Are you claiming that Cam needs 188 points-150 points = 33 points and he may have qualified for Aus Open? and so on?

 

 


Well may have qualified for qualifying, yes.

If WR 270 was what was required from the rankings at 19.12.16 and with subsequent pull-outs ( though as I said WR 270 I think may be optimistic, it may be higher ) then at the moment that target is 188 points.

Cam is guaranteed so far to have at least 150 points on 19.12.16 so on that basis would need 188 - 150 = 38 further points by then.



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With Ed's 25K final last week and so little to defend he jumps to the top of our Australian Open qualifying candidates beyond our top 4.

Just for now listing the top 3 with guaranteed points including Ed and Liam's yet to be officially added futures points with ( ranking points - these to come off )

5. Ed 160 ( 163 - 3 )
6. Cam 150 ( 180 - 30 )
7. Liam 140 ( 183 - 43 )

Ed's guaranteed 160 points are currently the mark of the WR 300.



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 3rd of October 2016 09:41:11 PM

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Cam's still in college, so I doubt he'll travel, playing some of the US tournaments is a good break from college tennis, and obviously doing very very well is a major boost to his long term prospects.

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philwrig wrote:

Cam's still in college, so I doubt he'll travel, playing some of the US tournaments is a good break from college tennis, and obviously doing very very well is a major boost to his long term prospects.


 

I think someone said though that Cam was taking a semester break from college (which is very easy to do in the US system) so full-time tennis for 6 months or so (at least)



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Coup Droit wrote:
philwrig wrote:

Cam's still in college, so I doubt he'll travel, playing some of the US tournaments is a good break from college tennis, and obviously doing very very well is a major boost to his long term prospects.


 

I think someone said though that Cam was taking a semester break from college (which is very easy to do in the US system) so full-time tennis for 6 months or so (at least)


 Interesting, I hadn't picked that up, I presume his form has prompted that move, hopefully he can take advantage.



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Although Brydan has shot up to GB #6 after his challenger run he has a fair amount of points to defend by Aussie Open qualifying date, so still behind Ed, Cam and Liam for that. All still almost certainly need fair bit more, possibly to get to in excess of 200 guaranteed points, which is currently equivalent to WR 260.

Ranking points on 17/10 less points still to be dropped by 19/12 :

5. Ed : 175 ( 177 - 2* ) - net 2 since he has a 'spare' 1
6. Cam : 163 ( 166 - 3 )
7. Liam : 140 ( 155 - 15 )
8. Brydan : 131 ( 182 - 51 )
9. Lloyd : 113 ( 173 - 60 )
10. Alex : 106 ( 139 - 33 )
11. James : 90 ( 207 - 117 )
12. Marcus : 72 ( 72 - 0 )


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Ed and Brydan the two strongest chances. In fact if Ed won this weeks 25k he'd be there with still 3 challengers to play. Including this week Brydan would need a net QF challenger points yield in the 4 tournaments to be there or about which is certainly possible.

Liam has a futures and the 3 challengers would
Need to go similar to Brydan and a decent showing in his futures tournament. Looks like Cam is finished for the year and Lloyd is too big an ask.

Anyone know what's happened to Alex Ward? Just as he was making progress seems injury has again got him.


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Yes, pity if Cam is finished for the year, though I've not heard more since injury hit him in his tight match against Tommy Paul and he pulled out from this week.

I am sure I read that as well as this college break serving to generally test himself he did have Aussie Open qualifying as a specific target, and he certainly wasn't giving it a bad go.

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Brydan also seems to be giving it a good crack, you'd think they both had antipodean roots and not the proud Scotsman (stunning in January) we know them to be.



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Thursday 20th of October 2016 04:48:27 AM

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Yes, particularly good since Brydan only added his first points of 2016 ( and first points towards Australian Open qualifying* ) on 19th June.

Another 17 this week, and counting, has him scoring 148 points in just over 4 months. That's now one point more than the 147 points Aljaz has scored in the same period.

*Starting so late, all these points are actually also guaranteed points towards French Open qualifying and Wimbledon qualifying ( though it probably doesn't matter re Wimbledon qualifying ). Any sort of decent first half of 2017 and they look very good even if he were to fall short for Australia. Real chance in fact to move much higher up the rankings.



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 10:22:11 PM

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24/10 update with our leading runners ( beyond our top 4 ) :

5. Ed 175 ( 177- 2 )
6. Cam 163 ( 166 - 3 )
7. Brydan 148 ( 199 - 51 )
8. Liam 145 ( 160 - 15 )

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The 07/11 position will be :

5. Ed 175 ( 177 - 2 )
6. Cam 163 ( 166 - 3 )
7. Liam 152 ( 167 - 15 )
8. Brydan 148 ( 163 - 15 )

Just Liam adding this week and looked a very good effort vs the #2 seed to add even more.

Really do hope that at least one can find these extra necessary points.



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 2nd of November 2016 10:27:46 PM

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What's the latest estimate of the number of points they would need?



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