Week 20 - ITF ($25K) - Goyang, Korea Hard

Peter too · Tennis legend

Week 20 - ITF ($25K) - Goyang, Korea Hard

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Beatrice is a recent graduate from Clemson. Was ranked 3 in dubs and won the All Americans in dubs so potentia quite a strong opponent.

paulisi · Tennis legend

For a weak 25k these are tough draws. Harriet will no doubt be jet lagged as well

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And there was me thinking they were pretty good

Harriet surely can't expect a better 25k draw than someone who is 25 and never been better ranked than 649 in the world?

I mean, she well may lose, she did last time, and she's just flown over, but that's not the fault of the draw, that's her.

Freya's is a little more unknown - but 2008 is a LONG time ago to be top 200, and she only played a couple of events last year.

insomniacfolder · Challenger level

paulisi wrote:
For a weak 25k these are tough draws.

Possibly weakest $25K this year

paulisi · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
And there was me thinking they were pretty good

Harriet surely can't expect a better 25k draw than someone who is 25 and never been better ranked than 649 in the world?

I mean, she well may lose, she did last time, and she's just flown over, but that's not the fault of the draw, that's her.

Freya's is a little more unknown - but 2008 is a LONG time ago to be top 200, and she only played a couple of events last year.

CD - read the Optimist's post. The girl has only just come out of Uni, so doesn't have a full ranking. Her university record in doubles is excellent. Harriet should normally win, but it may be a lot tougher than it looks. I'm sure Harriet planned to get there a little earlier, but she was unexpectedly still playing in Turkey on Saturday.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I did read it.

And I didn't say that Harriet would win.

What I said is that if, like Harriet, you are unseeded then you could get (and would - overall - expect to get) a lot worse than Beatrice in a 25k. And that, as such, it can't be a 'bad' draw. Nor for Freya either.

indiana · Tennis legend

No youngster ( aged 25 ), even if recently graduated, Beatrice has played 13 ITFs over the last year in a mixture of 10Ks, 15Ks and 25Ks, and picked up 32 points from 8 counters. So played quite a bit although yes would no doubt be ranked higher with a fuller program.

In an overall weak 25K clearly Harriet could have found easier ( and harder ), but as a general 25K opponent, and without looking at her wins and losses in detail, I'd say she really looks a pretty decent R1 draw. I reckon she'd be struggling to make the MD in many 25Ks.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 16th of May 2016 08:38:28 PM

insomniacfolder · Challenger level

indiana wrote:
In an overall weak 25K clearly Harriet could have found easier ( and harder ), but as a general 25K opponent, and without looking at her wins and losses in detail, I'd say she really looks a pretty decent R1 draw. I reckon she'd be struggling to make the MD in many 25Ks.

Indiana is correct. The red line shows that this is the only $25K in which WR 649 would have made MD as a DE, out of an assorted 25 held so far around the world - including the one in Uzbekistan which you might suppose would be even weaker.

indiana · Tennis legend

Thanks, ISF, interesting. Re Beatrice, struggling to make the MD in "many" 25Ks was clearly very much underplaying it.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Great stuff, as usual, insomniacf !

Interesting.

Of course, Harriet will now probably lose in two (trying reverse psychology....) But at least she won't be able to blame the draw.....

DF · Tennis legend

Freya and Harriet have teamed up for the doubles.
Playing before their singles but are down 0-2

DF · Tennis legend

Freya and Harriet have the first set 6-4

DF · Tennis legend

They win 6-4 6-4

wimdledont · Challenger level

Both women won overnight...

Harriet 7-5, 7-5

Freya 5-7, 6-1, 6-3