Week 6 - Egypt F4 ($10,000) - Sharm El-Sheikh (Hard)

BradMarx90 · County player

Week 6 - Egypt F4 ($10,000) - Sharm El-Sheikh (Hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Brad: I think that should be as follows:

QR1: (q8) Keelan Oakley WR 1245 (CH = 997 in August 2014) vs BYE

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QR2: (q8) Keelan Oakley WR 1245 vs Dietrich Dernowski (GER) UNR

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Sounds like another hard-fought win against the German:

Keelan Oakley ‏@KeelanOakley 2h2 hours ago

Got it done 4 in the 3rd, it wasn't pretty but fought well. Last round quals tomorrow 💪🏼

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR2: (q8) Keelan Oakley WR 1245 defeated Dietrich Dernowski (GER) UNR by 3-6 6-3 6-4

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FQR: (q8) Keelan Oakley WR 1245 vs (q15) Oleg Prihodko (UKR) WR 1606 (CH = 1391 in June 2014)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Keelan lost out in his FQR against the Ukranian, 1-6 4-6

Vandenburg · Futures level

Here we go again, Egypt with its 50 futures events a year, disgraceful.

BradMarx90 · County player

Vandenburg wrote:
Here we go again, Egypt with its 50 futures events a year, disgraceful.

I can't decide if this is sarcastic. What's wrong with it?

Vandenburg · Futures level

BradMarx90 wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Here we go again, Egypt with its 50 futures events a year, disgraceful.
I can't decide if this is sarcastic. What's wrong with it?

1) Isreali tennis players are not able to compete

2)If a tennis player happens to be gay, they cannot take their partner with them

3)They have simply purchased these futures.

4)Egypt has more futures a year then the whole of Sweden, norway, Denmark, finland, iceland, estonia, latvia, lithuania, new zealand, south africa,syria and Barbados combined.

BradMarx90 · County player

Vandenburg wrote:
BradMarx90 wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Here we go again, Egypt with its 50 futures events a year, disgraceful.
I can't decide if this is sarcastic. What's wrong with it?

1) Isreali tennis players are not able to compete
2)If a tennis player happens to be gay, they cannot take their partner with them
3)They have simply purchased these futures.
4)Egypt has more futures a year then the whole of Sweden, norway, Denmark, finland, iceland, estonia, latvia, lithuania, new zealand, south africa,syria and Barbados combined.

I appreciate the first two points are awful, but sadly that's more to do with the state of the world and Israel's relationship with Egypt (and Palestine, and Lebanon, and Syria etc.) than tennis. As for gay rights in places like Egypt (and Uganda and plenty of other nations in Africa and the Middle East), again that's not for the ITF to organise. Let's just hope they don't elect a Republican candidate across the pond as I feel they'd repeal all the progress that's been made under Obama in terms of gay rights, gay marriage etc.

Personally I don't see the issue in having plenty of events in one country (or indeed, one holiday resort in Sharm) because it allows players to base themselves somewhere rather than paying extortionate fees for flights etc., but I perhaps do appreciate the need for a more varied range of events, given that having so many events in Egypt does exclude a collection of players.

Perhaps not the place to have this sort of conversation...

paulisi · Tennis legend

Are you sure about point 1? You are not allowed to restrict entry by nationality. There was a big stink a few years back when Shahar Peer was refused entry to the UAE and the WTA stepped in and forced them to allow her to play.

What may be the issue is that quite a few Arab nations refuse to play against anyone under the Israel banner - hence why the Fed Cup had missing teams.

BradMarx90 · County player

paulisi wrote:
Are you sure about point 1? You are not allowed to restrict entry by nationality. There was a big stink a few years back when Shahar Peer was refused entry to the UAE and the WTA stepped in and forced them to allow her to play.

What may be the issue is that quite a few Arab nations refuse to play against anyone under the Israel banner - hence why the Fed Cup had missing teams.

That's the point I was trying to make above.

indiana · Tennis legend

Did the Fed Cup really have missing teams due to any Arab ( North African ) teams avoiding Israel ?

The top level groups, below the World Groups, in both Fed Cup and Davis Cup, are always liable to get unbalanced because of uncertain numbers. You have fixed promotion going into them, but unknown relegation in regional terms from the World Group play-offs.

PS : Just checked for last year anyway and the only relevant Arab team in Group 2 was Egypt and they were not ultimately in contention for promotion, though survived a relegation play-off. Two teams were due to be promoted into this year's Group 1 ( South Africa and Estonia ) and both were.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 8th of February 2016 04:30:49 PM

paulisi · Tennis legend

It did a couple of years ago when they were last there - I think it was Tunisia who got into trouble.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

R1: Keelan Oakley & Matthias Wunner (GER) CR 1868 (1186+682) vs (3) Claudio Fortuna & Laurynas Grigelis (ITA/LTU) CR 819 (557+262) bleh

Vandenburg · Futures level

There was a similar issue regarding football too recently. Avram Grant is or was manager a national team in Africa, and he had away ties against northern arab african nations, and could not travel...

indiana wrote:
Did the Fed Cup really have missing teams due to any Arab ( North African ) teams avoiding Israel ?

The top level groups, below the World Groups, in both Fed Cup and Davis Cup, are always liable to get unbalanced because of uncertain numbers. You have fixed promotion going into them, but unknown relegation in regional terms from the World Group play-offs.
PS : Just checked for last year anyway and the only relevant Arab team in Group 2 was Egypt and they were not ultimately in contention for promotion, though survived a relegation play-off. Two teams were due to be promoted into this year's Group 1 ( South Africa and Estonia ) and both were.

-- Edited by indiana on Monday 8th of February 2016 04:30:49 PM