Entries Week 38 - 21/09/15

paulisi · Tennis legend

Entries Week 38 - 21/09/15

theemptyvessel · Club Coach

Not sure Liam playing a Futures event is the best idea at this point. I guess he is just looking to notch a few wins to get some confidence back but he has quite a few points to defend if he wants to stay in the top 200 and even if he wins a couple of events at this level it is not going to replace the points dropping off.

indiana · Tennis legend

But it would mitigate the potential fall a bit while no points at all or relatively few challenger points clearly wouldn't.

Decisions, decisions ...

The important thing going forward is actually probably less about Liam's short term ranking anyway and rather more about getting his form on an upswing again, whether that's winning quite a lot of matches at a lower level for now, a couple of good ones at challenger level or however.

Just getting into more match deciding situations and hopefully getting over the line more may be good for him.

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 5th of September 2015 02:04:38 PM

paulisi · Tennis legend

ITF tables updated

indiana · Tennis legend

I was reading that Johanna has withdrawn from Guangzhou, taking some well earned time out before heading a bit later to Asia.

paulisi · Tennis legend

John Morris has tweeted that the Monterrey 50k has been downgraded to 25k after the acceptance list. Surely this isn't allowed?

PockyTastic · Futures level

paulisi wrote:
John Morris has tweeted that the Monterrey 50k has been downgraded to 25k after the acceptance list. Surely this isn't allowed?

It's been changed on the ITF site. Unprecedented and considering how "soft" other tournaments have been without being downgraded a bit surprising! The acceptance list looks pretty decent though I'm guessing some will drop out now...

PockyTastic · Futures level

WR 105 tops the entry list and all auto entries so far are within the top 250! Maybe the organisers have financial issues as the list looks strong at the moment - it looks as strong as the 75K in USA!

-- Edited by PockyTastic on Saturday 12th of September 2015 12:12:27 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes I looked at the acceptance list and immediately thought that doesn't look bad at all.

So presumably not really to do with the quality of the acceptance list. So financial problems does indeed look very possible.

If it's allowed ( as apparently it is and I guess better off than cancel ) it's very off.

And if that's after the acceptance lists are shut and players taking themselves out or been automatically taken out out of other tournaments they I assume haven't even got a chance to change tournament !

-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 12th of September 2015 01:59:14 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And as has been tweeted (see paulisi's comment):

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 24h24 hours ago

Amazing that the @ITFprocircuit event in Monterrey has been allowed to downgrade from a $50k to a $25k 2 days after the withdrawal deadline

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 24h24 hours ago

Players are fined for withdrawing late. Surely the @ITFprocircuit has the same responsibility? They should prop up the money back to $50k.

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 17h17 hours ago

If a player withdraws late from $10k @ITFprocircuit event they're fined $500 which is Apx50% of the winning cheque. Imagine that

juki ‏@juki_tennis 9h9 hours ago

Terrible for players! Now we have situation where $25K Monterrey has much stronger field than $75K Alburquerque!

indiana · Tennis legend

If the ITF are hiding behind some small print then pretty disgraceful.

As John Morris says, prop it back up to a 50K themselves if it comes to it.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Coup Droit wrote:
And as has been tweeted (see paulisi's comment):

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 24h24 hours ago

Amazing that the @ITFprocircuit event in Monterrey has been allowed to downgrade from a $50k to a $25k 2 days after the withdrawal deadline

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 24h24 hours ago

Players are fined for withdrawing late. Surely the @ITFprocircuit has the same responsibility? They should prop up the money back to $50k.

John Morris ‏@JohnMorris1982 17h17 hours ago

If a player withdraws late from $10k @ITFprocircuit event they're fined $500 which is Apx50% of the winning cheque. Imagine that

juki ‏@juki_tennis 9h9 hours ago

Terrible for players! Now we have situation where $25K Monterrey has much stronger field than $75K Alburquerque!

This is terrible. At this level players really need their income.

indiana · Tennis legend

Just thinking a bit more, rather cynically, if one really wanted to get players entered into and stuck with a 50K turned into a 25K, what better way to draw them in and trap them than a 25K in the same place the previous week !

RJA · Hall of fame

indiana wrote:
Just thinking a bit more, rather cynically, if one really wanted to get players entered into and stuck with a 50K turned into a 25K, what better way to draw them in and trap them than a 25K in the same place the previous week !

Perhaps, but you have to assume that from next year they will struggle to attract players. I would hope that the players there this year would find a way of protesting against this outrageous decision and embarrassing the tournament officials.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Not knowing the fine print but it would seem this is a clear breach of contract - an offer on one set of terms, that is accepted, and then the terms changed.

I would have though there is a valid legal challenge to this.

I assume that there are ITF player representatives (I know that there are for the ATP). I hope that they act.