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Post Info TOPIC: Week 20 - WTA International ($227K) - Strasbourg, France - Clay


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Week 20 - WTA International ($227K) - Strasbourg, France - Clay


The draw is finally kind!
An undersubscribed International means a R1 bye for the seeds, and a very winnable looking QF, no matter who they play.

R1: Jocelyn RAE/Anna SMITH (GBR/GBR) [4] 172 vs. Bye
QF: Jocelyn RAE/Anna SMITH (GBR/GBR) [4] 172 vs [Alona FOMINA/Petra KREJSOVA (UKR/CZR) 540] OR [Carolin DANIELS/Michelle SAMMONS (GER/RSA) 602]



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Is this the first time they've been seeded at WTA level?

If they can inflict enough injuries on their opponents here, they might make the cut-off for the French Open yet ;)

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Joss+Anna's QF opponents are now decided...

QF: Jocelyn RAE/Anna SMITH (GBR/GBR) [4] 172 vs Carolin DANIELS/Michelle SAMMONS (GER/RSA) 602

They can gain an extra 109 points for winning this match (110 v 1); whereas the would win only an extra 100 for winning the final (280 v 180); so a must-win match...

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I'm not sure on your logic there.

The key point is picking up more points that they are currently defending, whether than 110pts, 180pts or 280pts for winning

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I think that I am logically pointing out the absurdity of an illogical situation...

They will get an extra 110 points for winning their first match; an extra 70 points for winning a (harder) second match; and an extra 100 points for winning a (harder still) third match.

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It's not that illogical, they had a bye in round 1, so are playing for semi final points.

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I don't agree that it's absurd, just a bit of an anomaly essentially caused by the R1 bye on top of doubles generally starting anyway a round nearer the final than singles on the same scale.

The singles 1, 30, 60, 110, 180, 280 progression is fine and the doubles 1, 60, 110, 180, 280 progression that flows from that OK - can't say I'm bothered about starting with a 59 gain then 50 ( then 70 then 100 )

The WTA sorted out many much more built in anomalies ( which one could more argue were a bit absurd ) from last year, falling much more in line with the ATP points system.

What to do? Never have byes? Some new points system idea? Or maybe best just accept as something that can occur? I'm for the last.

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I personally think that the usual sequence of +60, +50, +70, +100 is highly deficient in surdity.

Following the singles scores (and assuming a bye in R2) leaves something to be desired. Why not have a different allocation for doubles; one which doesn't give you less points for winning your second match?

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Joss+Anna are limbering up...

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Anna played a terrible service game from 40-15 to lose their break, now *2-2

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3 deciding points, 3 games lost, otherwise in command.

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Miss a break point

4-3*

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Get that one and serve it out 6-3

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Could have been a bagel, but positive start so far, 6-3.

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Opposition starting to get a foothold in this match, still on serve in 2nd set.

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