Coup Droit wrote:

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Was hoping it was something else. Poor Lisa:

lisa whybourn ‏@lisawhybourn 17m17 minutes ago

"Absolutely gutted I had to retire from my match today only the 2nd time in my life iv had to do that! Back to the shoulder specialist for me!"

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I  hope Lisa is ok she played so well in Glasgow lost to top seed in a tight three setter loads of potential still to come for Lisa 

Aimee Gibson+ got a win in the doubles, 10-7 in the MTB.

Dasha and Savannah lost out.

LordBrownof wrote:

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We seem to have a number of players suffering with persistent and career threatening injuries. Are we simply unlucky or is this the norm?

I was listening to Pam Shriver talk this morning about the importance of a multi-sport approach to young careers and how specialising in one sport too early can lead to injuries. Something I hadn't considered before.

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It's a really interesting point (worth being in a 'general' topic, to be honest - maybe the 'injury' one).

I don't have much 'scientific' to add, and it would be very interesting to know different injury rates in different countries (although difficult to get, I expect), but just a couple of points:

1. Tennis is one of the few completely asymmetric sports (slightly less so for double-handed back-handers but still...) The medical books for Scoliosis (the French are obsessed with scoliosis) have some horrific pictures of US teenage boys (from a while back, not now, I',m sure) who were tennis players, with grossly over-developed right sides to their torso (right-handed players, obviously) and very curved spines as a result. The right side muscles are almost double the left-hand side size. The boys can;t even stand properly straight.

I'm guessing that all trainers/coaches/federations are more savvy about this now and realise how vital mulit-sport training is. But the info might still not be disseminated to everyone.

2. My reproach against UK trainers (not all, obviously, but a large number, probable mainly of the slightly 'second-tier' players) is that they seem 30 years out of date. Not re the above, as such, but in the amount of time they spend doing repetitive drills. European tennis now focuses on group play and, for individuals, 'schemes' of play i.e. not just doing basket after basket of forehands. It is supposed to be healthier, more interesting and way more productive in general.

One of the newer 'fads' over the last few years (especially for girls) is to train to music. Pop music. The idea is that (a) the girls like it, but also, (b) it keeps them relaxed and more dynamic ('jigging' along, less bored, less tense) which helps reduce the risk of injury.

3. I do wonder if playing exclusively on hard courts makes injuries more likely. Clay is obviously more forgiving for training (although matches are longer). No idea of stats though . . . and most of northern europe manage pretty well.

4. Having so 'few' players, Britain is really at risk of focusing on those who are injured, even though the numbers may come well within the statistical average range. i.e. if you've only got a couple, and one gets injured, you're up a gum tree (hence, the disaster, really, with Laura).

Would be curious if anyone has more statistical knowledge. . .

 

 

Laura lost 63 62

Savannah lost 62 63

Katie lets a *5-1 lead slip but settles herself to hold for 6-5*

Luangnam holds from 0-30. Tiebreak.

Katie has a set point at *6-5, saves one at 6-7*, takes the set 7-6(7)!

I've not followed livescore from here before: scores.itftennis.com/ - liking the 'max points/games in a row' stats!

I've always thought a useful stat would be looking something like at how many of your service games you miss more than 3 of your first 4 first serves or something - as these often seem to be the times when people break serve - I'm sure there are players who are more streaky than others in achieving similar first serve percentages - for example it feels like Murray tends to go on runs of missed first serves to get broken more easily that other top players (though maybe it's just my wanting him to win more or his more vulnerable second serve that gives this impression).