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With Emmas injuries requiring surgery Jodie will get number 1. Wish her well. But a number 1 in GB in the low 100s or  just under a 100 isnt great....no? 


 Re GB #1, if Jodie doesn't capture the spot in the short term ( and she will with a R2 victory this week in her WTA 125 ) then, taking off 2022 points, Emma is projected to stay #1 ( or indeed return to #1 even if Jodie sneaks ahead in the next few weeks ) for a little while yet.

Further ahead, through June, with all the grass points that Jodie is defending, she could then be challenged by quite a few players. It is not unlikely that Emma will actually be the GB #1 going into Wimbledon and further on it will be there for whoever steps up to the plate.

Would be great if one or two of these could get into the top 100 but all would need pretty good summers to be close.


 thanks Indy, good summary , as always. And a fight for that top spot would be good, if all are actually winning and it isnt just survival of the fittest. 



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Thanks Indy. Really useful review.



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I guess regardless of the level of the number one, there is at least interest in how it plays out over the next period and who comes out in top. Although Jodie will no doubt get there at some point, the beauty of the grass season is the eternal hope that one of our players as a standout result or two and gets a boost, which this time could get them to number one. Doesnt usually end up happening though , it this year the carrot may be a little more !

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Plus the womens doubles number one spots could get more interesting again and the mens doubles as well. Mens singles needs a fit Jack D to pressure Cam , so not currently anything to see there !

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One thing for all of the girls is that they have no points to defend at Wimbledon. As a lot prefer grass courts so there may be some points to be had there to push them towards the top 100

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RJH1962 wrote:

One thing for all of the girls is that they have no points to defend at Wimbledon. As a lot prefer grass courts so there may be some points to be had there to push them towards the top 100


 Well, no one has any points to defend, so it's a completely open playing field

And I'm not sure I can think of any who specifically play extra well on grass (maybe Hev?)

But I do agree with you, in that at least they will get wildcards into Wimbledon - so the chances of a sudden points surge is there - all you need is a good draw, a good match. The wildcards into other GB events also back up your point - although they had them last year, they usually lost (which is fine, players who are ranked a lot lower normall do). But at least they'll be in with a chance. It's definitely points opportunity time



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One thing for all of the girls is that they have no points to defend at Wimbledon. As a lot prefer grass courts so there may be some points to be had there to push them towards the top 100


 Well, no one has any points to defend, so it's a completely open playing field

And I'm not sure I can think of any who specifically play extra well on grass (maybe Hev?)

But I do agree with you, in that at least they will get wildcards into Wimbledon - so the chances of a sudden points surge is there - all you need is a good draw, a good match. The wildcards into other GB events also back up your point - although they had them last year, they usually lost (which is fine, players who are ranked a lot lower normall do). But at least they'll be in with a chance. It's definitely points opportunity time


 In the words of the bard who is Taylor Swift: points to anyone who knows the song (most likely anyone with a late teens early 20's daughter like me!) 

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indiana wrote:
Var wrote:

With Emmas injuries requiring surgery Jodie will get number 1. Wish her well. But a number 1 in GB in the low 100s or  just under a 100 isnt great....no? 


 Re GB #1, if Jodie doesn't capture the spot in the short term ( and she will with a R2 victory this week in her WTA 125 ) then, taking off 2022 points, Emma is projected to stay #1 ( or indeed return to #1 even if Jodie sneaks ahead in the next few weeks ) for a little while yet.

Further ahead, through June, with all the grass points that Jodie is defending, she could then be challenged by quite a few players. It is not unlikely that Emma will actually be the GB #1 going into Wimbledon and further on it will be there for whoever steps up to the plate.

Would be great if one or two of these could get into the top 100 but all would need pretty good summers to be close.


To follow up what Indie has said  I had a look at the points the top 6 have to defend through until the end of Wimbledon and it makes interesting reading:

Emma - 72, Jodie - 220, Harriet - 200, Katie B - 163, Katie S - 51 and Heather - 83.

If no more points were counted Emma would still be the clear number one, ranked around 120, with Jodie and Katie S second and third but more than 160 points behind.  Then comes Heather, with Harriet and Katie B another hundred points back.  Of course there are masses of points up for grabs and a good run in a tour level event would make a huge difference to anyone who can seize the moment, but the fact is there's a huge amount of work needed if anyone is to get even close to the top 100.  



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Following on from that I had a look at the doubles this morning. Lissey and Liv are both likely to stay in the top 80 until the end of July even if they don't improve their points tally. Freya and Ali need to get some big counters to close the gap which would still be around 200 points at the end of July if neither team improves. As in the singles, winning a match or two at a bigger tournament will make a big difference, but that means playing W60 or above really.

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Heather or Katie Swan could be the dark horse

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JonH comes home wrote:

I guess regardless of the level of the number one, there is at least interest in how it plays out over the next period and who comes out in top. Although Jodie will no doubt get there at some point, the beauty of the grass season is the eternal hope that one of our players as a standout result or two and gets a boost, which this time could get them to number one. Doesnt usually end up happening though , it this year the carrot may be a little more !


 Ha, I did try my best to indicate that there was a fair bit of doubt as to whether Jodie would get to #1 if she didn't manage it this week ( as has transpired ).or pre the grass court season. Though if she can repeat much of her grass court exploits of last year rather more chance.

But, as others' figures have also indicated, it really could be a bun fight for the next GB #1 after Emma and certainly for the ongoing #1.



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JonH comes home wrote:

Heather or Katie Swan could be the dark horse


 They could be but can Katie Swan stay fit?

Whatever happens the target to overtake Emma by the start of Wimbledon will be 549 points. So even before any possible point losses all except Jodie have ground to make up. Even though most of the GB women will get wild cards to the pre Wimbledon tournaments there is a good deal of jeopardy involved for Jodie and Harriet especially. A poor grass court season could see Jodie drop down to the 130/140s level.

French Open qualifying might help as I think it more likely some of our women would pick up points in the qualifying than merely being knocked out in round 1.

All to play for in the next few weeks to see who could be GB No.1 by the start of Wimbledon.

Have to say I like Heather a lot but, the thought of her being GB No.1 is a bit depressing.



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In some ways its actually better to have a battle to be number 1. When Emma's points fall away it would feel a little hollow to just go to Jodie.

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There is lots of movement in the rankings this week, it might be easier to say who hasn't had significant movement. The main headline this week is the widely trailed news that Emma drops out of the top 100 and GB has nobody in top 100 for the first time since May 2008. Lauryn John-Baptiste returns to the WTA rankings, bringing us up to 41 ranked women. Fran returns to the GB top10 at GB#10, replacing Eden who falls from GB#9 to GB#12 as last year's Nottingham title points drop off. Career highs for Jodie, Anna, Marni, Emily Appleton, Danielle Daley and Abigail Amos.

These are the rankings that will be used for Roland Garros qualifying seedings. I think Katie B is seeded and Harriet should be once WCs and withdrawals are taken into account.

GB Top 10 and other main movers

1. 103 (-18) Emma Raducanu
2. 106 (+4) Jodie Burrage (New CH)
3. 135 (+19) Katie Boulter
4. 139 (+1) Harriet Dart
5. 162 (-12) Katie Swan
6. 166 (+3) Heather Watson
7. 204 (-9) Lily Miyazaki
8. 213 (+4) Sonay Kartal
9. 314 (+24) Naiktha Bains
10. 319 (+67) Francesca Jones
11. 338 (+21) Anna Brogan (New CH)
12. 351 (-45) Eden Silva
13. 386 (+10) Eliz Maloney
14. 411 (+66) Amarni Banks (New CH)
15. 420 (+28) Emily Appleton (New CH)
16. 426 (+33) Freya Christie

21. 595 (+87) Katy Dunne
22. 660 (-32) Jasmine Conway

24. 714 (-41) Talia Neilson Gatenby
25. 725 (+35) Alice Gillan

29. 918 (+113) Danielle Daley (New CH)

31. 995 (+10) Kristina Paskauskas
32. 999 (+34) Abigail Amos (New CH)

35. 1053 (Re-entry) Lauryn John-Baptiste

Next rankings will be in 2 weeks and, if my maths is correct, will be the rankings that determine Wimbledon main draw entry.

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