S.T.E.V.E.N.

the addict · Tennis legend

S.T.E.V.E.N.

Michael D · All-time great

the addict wrote:
Steven

Use openerarankings.com/WTAHome for the women and openerarankings.com/ for the men.
You can filter it to just the Brits, and get a full breakdown of counters, non-counters and drop-off dates.

It does work better on a tablet though - the main site has drop down lists, while the tablet version expands on the page.

Well, you've taught me something there Addict - having been using OER for some time, I had missed that unranked players with points filter that allows you to add them onto the end of the ranked players, on the GB list! And altogether we have 23 players on the list of unranked players with points... that's many more than I had realised.

the addict · Tennis legend

Yes, there are quite of lot of options there. The points breakdown is particularly useful.

AliBlahBlah · All-time great

AliBlahBlah wrote:
I think this is the 2018 list outstanding:
Anna Popescu - Amiens - $15K - Week 10 - (Q) R16
Anna Popescu - Gothenburg - $15K - Week 20 - (Q) R16
Danielle Daley - Ramat Hasharon - $15K - Week 11 - (Q) R16
Eden Richardson - Manchester - $100K - Week 24 - (Q) R32
Holly Fischer - Wimbledon Qualifying - Grand Slam - Week 26 - (qWC) QR1
Olivia Sonnekus-Williams - Hammamet - $15K - Week 19 - R16
Victoria Allen - Manchester - $100K - Week 24 - FQR

I'll try to do holdovers from 2017 later

Here is some more detail from 2018 that seems discrepant

Heather: Non-Counter: St Petersburg - Seed should be [q3] not [3]
Heather: Non-Counter: Charleston - Round should be R64 not R32 (Charleston is a 64 draw opening round, Hev did not win her opening match)
Gabi: Counter - Lexington - Seed should be [6] not <blank>
Samantha: Counter - Manchester - Entry should be [WC] not [wc] - Round should be R32 not QR1
Samantha: Counter - Woking - Entry shold be <blank> not [Q]

Will check some more in a while.

Have checked every data item for every 2018 match. Other than the two sets of ammendments noted above, I agree with everything in your tables.

I will reconcile 2017 data after Johanna's match in New Haven tonight, and produce a similar list of discrepancies should any arise.

-- Edited by AliBlahBlah on Tuesday 21st of August 2018 03:50:48 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

Week 33 Titles :

Men's Singles

ATP Challenger $100K Odlum Brown VanOpen, Vancouver, Canada
Dan Evans

Women's Singles

Gimcheon ITF 15K, South Korea
Emily Appleton

Men's Doubles

ATP 1000 Masters Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, OH, USA
Jamie Murray ( & Bruno.Soares, BRA )

ATP Challenger $100K Odlum Brown VanOpen, Vancouver, Canada
Luke Bambridge & Neal Skupski

Minsk 15K F2, Belarus
Scott Duncan ( & Conor Berg, USA )

Sintra 15K F15, Portugal
Jonathan Binding ( Francisco Dias, POR )

Junior Girls Doubles

Juniors Open LTA Maaseik 2018, Maaseik, Belgium, Grade 4
17/08, Matilda Mutavdzic (14) ( & Tatiana Muzykantskaya, RUS )

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Michael D wrote:
Great to see those lists updated again Steven, it's wonderful to have the quick reference again!

Just one additional point to note to ABB's stats, is that at the moment you've given that Manchester R32 result for Eden Richardson (who is at LSU), to Erin Richardson. I don't know if they are sisters, but their names are certainly confusing.

No our two E Richardson ladies are not related at all.

steven · Tennis legend

Thanks very much, theaddict and ABB, that's great. The OER resource is excellent for checking that I haven't missed anyone (apparently, I missed quite a few!) even though I'll still have to go back to the other sources to get the extra info on my Best 16/18 tables.

I'll add the 2018 outstanding list later tonight. I shouldn't have missed any 2017 points because I was still doing the GB T25 tables every week back then. Of course, it's always possible for me to inadvertently miss one and while that usually becomes clear very quickly (if the points totals and the totals on my tables don't match a week or two later), missing points errors can cause problems later if they relate to unranked players or non-counters for ranked players that later become counters.

I'm not surprised you found a few minor errors (seedings, etc - I'll correct those later tonight too) but I'm grateful to you for pointing them out and the E Richardson one was a particularly good spot!

Corrections now uploaded.

Edit: I've just realised theaddict and ABB aren't the same person

-- Edited by steven on Tuesday 21st of August 2018 06:09:14 PM

flamingowings · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Week 33 Titles :

Men's Singles

ATP Challenger $100K Odlum Brown VanOpen, Vancouver, Canada
Dan Evans

Women's Singles

Gimcheon ITF 15K, South Korea
Emily Appleton

Men's Doubles

ATP 1000 Masters Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, OH, USA
Jamie Murray ( & Bruno.Soares, BRA )

ATP Challenger $100K Odlum Brown VanOpen, Vancouver, Canada
Luke Bambridge & Neal Skupski

Minsk 15K F2, Belarus
Scott Duncan ( & Conor Berg, USA )

Sintra 15K F15, Portugal
Jonathan Binding ( Francisco Dias, POR )

Junior Girls Doubles

Juniors Open LTA Maaseik 2018, Maaseik, Belgium, Grade 4
17/08, Matilda Mutavdzic (14) ( & Tatiana Muzykantskaya, RUS )

Very successful week - especially so after The Week Of All The Retirements/Withdrawals.

AliBlahBlah · All-time great

2017
Missing:
Amy Sargeant - Week 46 - Norman - $25K - (WC) - R32

Any discrepancies to follow later.

the addict · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Steven

Use openerarankings.com/WTAHome for the women and openerarankings.com/ for the men.
You can filter it to just the Brits, and get a full breakdown of counters, non-counters and drop-off dates.

It does work better on a tablet though - the main site has drop down lists, while the tablet version expands on the page.

Screenshot attached from my tablet to show Jo's points breakdown. Not inserted deliberately

AliBlahBlah · All-time great

the addict wrote:
the addict wrote:
Steven

Use openerarankings.com/WTAHome for the women and openerarankings.com/ for the men.
You can filter it to just the Brits, and get a full breakdown of counters, non-counters and drop-off dates.

It does work better on a tablet though - the main site has drop down lists, while the tablet version expands on the page.
Screenshot attached from my tablet to show Jo's points breakdown. Not inserted deliberately

It's a great starting point. But, as he noted, for steven's tables he will still need the full entry/seeding data though, and therefore still need to consult ITF/WTA match histories

steven · Tennis legend

Thanks again - that 2017 one didn't even make it to the GB T25 table that week. I always check the entry lists and the qualifying draws but those sneaky main draw wild cards outside the UK (when there is no other Brit in that main draw) are all too easy to miss.

the addict · Tennis legend

Of course, but I thought it would help with checking the tricky question of counters/non-counters and drop dates.

steven · Tennis legend

AliBlahBlah wrote:
the addict wrote:
the addict wrote:
Steven

Use openerarankings.com/WTAHome for the women and openerarankings.com/ for the men.
You can filter it to just the Brits, and get a full breakdown of counters, non-counters and drop-off dates.

It does work better on a tablet though - the main site has drop down lists, while the tablet version expands on the page.
Screenshot attached from my tablet to show Jo's points breakdown. Not inserted deliberately
It's a great starting point. But, as he noted, for steven's tables he will still need the full entry/seeding data though, and therefore still need to consult ITF/WTA match histories

Yes, I was tempted to delete that entry/seeding column and save myself the hassle, but I find it quite useful sometimes when I'm looking back at past tournaments and it's easy enough to fill in when I'm doing the T25 tables on an ongoing basis. Those openerarankings tables will still be very useful to check from time to time that I haven't missed any counters, especially when I get a sudden discrepancy between my total and the WTA's and it's not immediately obvious why - it's usually due to a non-counter I've omitted becoming a counter months later or me having got the drop date wrong by a week either way.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes great to see the progress Steven.

I didn't have time earlier to have much of a look and anyway too many cooks and all that. I see that you are getting plenty good assistance.

I'll probably have a gander at it all in a couple of days or so, err when it's maybe all fixed. Though maybe I can find something