Week 3 - Great Britain F1 ($10,000) - Sheffield (Hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Week 3 - Great Britain F1 ($10,000) - Sheffield (Hard)

paulisi · Tennis legend

RE: Week 3 - Sheffield, GB F1 $10,000 - (Hard)

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

Real shame that I won't be able to get down until late in the week due to exams. Hopefully there will be a Brit or two left.

RJA · Hall of fame

To be frank I find it more than annoying that certain players seem to be consistently incapable of entering tournaments and that the LTA then allow them to take wild cards into qualifying. If juniors forget to enter a tournament then the LTA say tough but when a so called professional does so they are quite happy to oblige.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RJA wrote:
To be frank I find it more than annoying that certain players seem to be consistently incapable of entering tournaments and that the LTA then allow them to take wild cards into qualifying. If juniors forget to enter a tournament then the LTA say tough but when a so called professional does so they are quite happy to oblige.

I agree.

I don't really mind a few main draw wild cards (who are not on the list) - adds a certain spice, boosts the spectator value, and they're unlikely to be miles better ranked than the best ranked direct acceptance (although three of those mentioned by paulisi are about 100 places higher than Ward, the top entrant, so it's still debatable).

But I REALLY disapprove of highly-ranked late wild cards being given into the qualifiers. It completely messes up the profile of the draw, Dan Evans and Lewis etc are MILES higher ranked than the majority of the players - it's not fair.

As you say, get your act together, players, and enter on time - and withdraw if you then have to.

indiana · Tennis legend

I absolutely agree re relatively highly ranked players often messing up the profile of draws and snookering from the off some up and coming players who want a decent shot at qualifying.

If there are too many of them for limited / already selected MD WCs then they should just have to sit it out on their backsides rather than get qualifying WCs. Might learn some lessons.

Circumstances do vary of course but maybe an upper limit to how well ranked any player can be in qualifying if the tournament organisers don't know how to say "no" ?

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Thing is, there are always spaces at sign-in of 10/15k qualifying draws. People miss flights, get injured or sick etc. Any player is entitled to turn up to try and sign in for these slots on the day. The LTA does not allocate its qualifying wildcards in advance but tends to give them to the highest ranked British players on this alternate sign-in list, although their official policy is 'at the discretion of the Head of Men's or Women's Tennis'. The remaining slots caused by no-shows have then to go the next previously entered player on the list who has signed in, regardless of nationality.

It is in the interests of the LTA that these wildcards do go the highest ranked Brits on the list, as they are the ones who will most likely qualify and bank points for British tennis in the main draw.

However, I think that if the proposed ITF playing down rules come into effect, we may see this less and less.

I also have some sympathy for Dan E. Often injured players aren't given a lot of notice of the all-clear to play again and ask for wild-cards for their first couple of events. It may be that the MD WCs had already been promised when he asked and so this would be the only course open to him.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, I said circumstances can vary, and I was thinking there of injured players and indeed who knows what level Evo's tennis at, probably rather too high for other folk in qualifying though. Abd there will often be great uncertainty about when injyred players will be ready to compete until quite late.

In most cases though to me it is players being unprofessional and bot having MD entries in place. And can muck up qualifying draws for others. Go down the list to find more qualifying entrants rather than distirt qualufying with too many who could and shiuld have been entered in the main draw.

To me, there should be wider considerations than maximising likely total GB points, and I would have similar thoughts if and when it is happening in other countries.

indiana · Tennis legend

Oops, posted by mistake before I'd edited out rubbish spelling or rather more typos.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Most of round 1 and a couple of round 2:

Round 1

Ben DRAPER (GBR) 7-6(1) 6-2 Ross WATSON (GBR)
Sean EVANS (GBR) 6-2 6-1 Curtis CLARKE (GBR)

Isaac STOUTE (GBR) 6-7(2) 6-4 6-2 Mateusz TERCZYNSKI (POL)
Asad SIYYID (CAN) 6-4 6-3 Pierre LUIGGI (GBR)

Ryan BROUGH (GBR) 6-3 6-1 Jamie Asanee PRADITNGAM (GBR)
Dominic BEESLEY (GBR) 7-5 6-2 Andrew ATKINSON (GBR)

Daniel APPELGREN (SWE) 6-0 6-0 Edward HARWOOD (GBR)
Harvey SHACKLETON (GBR) 4-6 6-3 6-3 Luke STEVENSON (GBR)
Chris ANGUELOV (BUL) 6-4 6-3 Nicholas JONES (GBR)

Marcus WALTERS (GBR) 7-6(5) 7-6(5) Clement LARRIERE (FRA)
Luke OAKLEY (GBR) 6-3 6-2 Oliver HONG (GBR)

Sacha MODICA (GBR) 6-1 6-2 Marcos ASVESTAS (CYP)
Louis NEWMAN (GBR) 6-2 6-2 Jeremy DESPONT (SUI)
Jack MOLLOY (GBR) 6-3 6-3 Michael SHAW (GBR)

Round 2

Joe SALISBURY (GBR) [3] 6-3 6-4 Ryan BROUGH (GBR)
Dominic BEESLEY (GBR) 6-4 6-1 Maximilien SANSON (SUI)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Full Q Round 2 results:

Round 2

Daniel EVANS (GBR) [1] 7-6(2) 6-2         Ben DRAPER (GBR)
Kyle FELLOWS (GBR)       7-5 6-7(3) 6-3   Sean EVANS (GBR)
Lewis BURTON (GBR) [2] 6-1 6-7(4) 6-1   Isaac STOUTE (GBR)
Asad SIYYID (CAN)          5-7 6-2 7-6(6)   Alexandru STOIA (ROU)
Joe SALISBURY (GBR) [3] 6-3 6-4             Ryan BROUGH (GBR)
Dominic BEESLEY (GBR)   6-4 6-1             Maximilien SANSON (SUI)
Daniel APPELGREN (SWE) 6-3 6-3           Robert CARTER (GBR) [4]
Harvey SHACKLETON (GBR) 6-3 6-2         David PARRY (GBR)
Adam THORNTON-BROWN (GBR) [5] 6-4 4-1 Ret. Tiran SANGHERA (GBR)
Samuel SUTTON (GBR)      3-6 7-5 7-6(5)    Chris ANGUELOV (BUL)
Peter ASHLEY (GBR) [6]    1-6 6-1 4-4 Ret. Marcus WALTERS (GBR)
Luke OAKLEY (GBR)          6-4 6-0 Donovan CELLUPICA TOWERS (GBR)
David PORTER (GBR) [7]    6-3 6-3           Sacha MODICA (GBR)
Sizya Ernest KIVANDA (GBR) 6-1 6-4        Louis NEWMAN (GBR)
Peter BOTHWELL (IRL) [8] 6-4 6-1          Daniel BENNETT (GBR)
Alexander JHUN (GBR) [9] 6-4 6-4           Jack MOLLOY (GBR)

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Sunday 18th of January 2015 09:29:36 PM

paulisi · Tennis legend

Harvey Shackleton and Dominic Beesley are new names to me.

All I know about Harvey is that he trains at Gosling(via Gosling twitter account) and is 16, Never heard of Mr Beesley before either and no nothing about him other than he is 19.

paulisi · Tennis legend

RE: Week 3 - Great Britain F1 ($10,000) - Sheffield (Hard)

paulisi · Tennis legend

Wins for Evo, Porter, Joe, Adam TB, Burts, Luke Oakley, Applegren and Jhun

Main draw is out and WC for Smethurst, Bambridge, Marsalek and Cox.

steven · Tennis legend

Shocking that all four wild cards have gone to players who would have got in direct had they entered in the first place - and in fact, the top two seeds are WCs, with the 3rd seed a QWC (and all 3 called Dan LOL)