Entries Week 25 - 16/06/2014

seagull · Hall of fame

Entries Week 25 - 16/06/2014

seagull · Hall of fame

Points Defences Week 25

Mens Singles

20 - Edmund
3 - Golding
2 - Hewitt, Malik
1 - Martin, Carpenter

Mens Doubles

6 - Hewitt, Morgan

Womans Singles

60 - Watson, Robson
8 - Moore
1 - Carreras, Fitzpatrick, Brown

LouieG · County player

Ward, Evo & Kyle have been given Wildcards to Eastbourne MD

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Which means Kyle guaranteed Wild Card for Wimbledon. He certainly gets special treatment it seems with all these wild cards

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
Which means Kyle guaranteed Wild Card for Wimbledon. He certainly gets special treatment it seems with all these wild cards

Yep, that seems to wrap up that 'mystery'.

And, yes, the 250 rule obviously does not apply to him . . . confuse

(Not that I think it's necessarily the wrong decision but . . . )

indiana · Tennis legend

CD, the '250 rule' has always been accompanied with a possible exception for very good young players.

Then it is, I presume, a judgement call as to whether good enough, but given that I see Kyle at his best, which is still pretty variable, having at least as good a chance at Wimbledon as Cox and Smethurst ( presumably going to be MD WCs ) for starters, I am fine with it.

Re Eastbourne, surely qualifiers would offer Kyle much more chance of getting decent grasscourt matchtime under his belt.

Do we know if he's got one for Queens too ? If so, IMHO that's pretty ridiculous, and probably not very helpful in progressing him.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
CD, the '250 rule' has always been accompanied with a possible exception for very good young players.

Then it is, I presume, a judgement call as to whether good enough, but given that I see Kyle at his best, which is still pretty variable, having at least as good a chance at Wimbledon as Cox and Smethurst ( presumably going to be MD WCs ) for starters, I am fine with it.

Re Eastbourne, surely qualifiers would offer Kyle much more chance of getting decent grasscourt matchtime under his belt.

Do we know if he's got one for Queens too ? If so, IMHO that's pretty ridiculous, and probably not very helpful in progressing him.

No, I realise Indy that the 250 rule is not a blanket rule and there is some discretion (hence, last year's WC for Kyle); I was just being faintly sarcastic, in line with Jaggy . . .

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I agree with Indiana it is ridiculous it seems to be a case if your face fits you get the world thrown at you training with Murray high profile coach wild cards all over the world. And yet he is yet to prove himself at challenger level. I predict Kyle won't be in the top 250 by end of year and the likes of Oli and Liam will be similarly ranked about 250-300 mark.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, Murray has refused to train with him now. Nothing personal, the article said, just doesn't really get on with Greg R. or appreciate his non-stop talking. And Andy is a good friend of Colin Beecher.

I didn't put Kyle in my top 250 pick for the end of the year either, but I think he probably will be, the guy can play,, just depends when exactly it all comes together.

Jaffa · Challenger level

Think everyone needs to have a reality check here and remember the boy is only 19!!!

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

Has there been a reason for Andy's dislike of Greg? I know many disagree with the guy as a pundit but I'm charmed by his passion and energy regarding the game.

indiana · Tennis legend

Kyle is indeed still only 19 and remains a very good prospect, how good is a story still to unfold.

But he does seem to have various parties ( management company etc ) that really bat for him, whether always in his tennis development interests I am not convinced.

The word 'messy' has been used about his schedule this year ( possibly not helped by Davis Cup duties ), and it does seem very at odds with what seemed a well planned campaign last year with Colin Beacher.

Certainly, to my mind, at times the hype so far has leapt ahead of the achievement and I was amazed at the clamour from various parties for him to play Davis Cup vs USA.

Fortunately Kyle himself seems a likeable lad with a good head on his shoulders, which he may need further if there's a little Andy / Greg politics. I am pretty far from convinced about Greg as his ongoing coach, forgetting any Andy issues, but I admit most of that is from impressions and hearsay.

When I express views about such as all his WCs and possible overhype, that is certainly nothing personal against Kyle, and I continue to wish to see him strongly progress.

seagull · Hall of fame

Doubles Entry List - Eastbourne

1 Dodig, Ivan (CRO)/Melo, Marcelo (BRA) 11
2 Lindstedt, Robert (SWE)/Mirnyi, Max (BLR) 36
3 Huey, Treat (PHI)/Inglot, Dominic (GBR) 43
4 Benneteau, Julien (FRA)/Roger-Vasselin, Edouard (FRA) 50
5 Cabal, Juan Sebastian (COL)/Farah, Robert (COL) 50
6 Murray, Jamie (GBR)/Peers, John (AUS) 67
7 Fyrstenberg, Mariusz (POL)/Guccione, Chris (AUS) 77
8 Berlocq, Carlos (ARG)/Seppi, Andreas (ITA) 80
9 Knowle, Julian (AUT)/Marray, Jonathan (GBR) 87
10 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP)/Oswald, Philipp (AUT) 91
11 (OS)
12 (OS)
13 (OS)
14 (OS)
15 (WC)
16 (WC)

Alternates
1 Giraldo, Santiago (COL)/Klizan, Martin (SVK) 94
2 Kas, Christopher (GER)/Simon, Gilles (FRA) 94
3 Kukushkin, Mikhail (KAZ)/Lu, Yen-Hsun (TPE) 102
4 Golubev, Andrey (KAZ)/Istomin, Denis (UZB) 102
5 Delbonis, Federico (ARG)/Sa, Andre (BRA) 109
6 Bracciali, Daniele (ITA)/Pavic, Mate (CRO) 110
7 Cermak, Frantisek (CZE)/Elgin, Mikhail (RUS) 123
8 Monroe, Nicholas (USA)/Stadler, Simon (GER) 131
9 Skupski, Ken (GBR)/Skupski, Neal (GBR) 133
10 Kretschmer, Gero (GER)/Satschko, Alexander (GER) 166
11 Marx, Philipp (GER)/Meffert, Dominik (GER) 206
12 Burton, Lewis (GBR)/Willis, Marcus (GBR) 473

spud · Challenger qualifying

I do hope that Smethurst gets a main draw WC for Wimbledon. For the year he's had so far, which has been far more consistent than anyone else and to not get one would be an absolute shambles!

paulisi · Tennis legend

spud wrote:
I do hope that Smethurst gets a main draw WC for Wimbledon. For the year he's had so far, which has been far more consistent than anyone else and to not get one would be an absolute shambles!

Fits the criteria and I would expect it, just for the season he is having.