Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: Week 20 - Challenger (€35,000+H) - Heilbronn II, Germany (Clay)


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34418
Date:
Week 20 - Challenger (€35,000+H) - Heilbronn II, Germany (Clay)


Dan Evans and James Ward are DAs here while Kyle reportedly has a wild card.

QR1: Alex Ward WR 362 v Christian Hirschmüller (GER) WR 1166 (CH 901 last Nov)

The German lost 3 & 0 to Liam Broady in Manama a few weeks ago. The seeds in Alex's section are (q6) Egor Gerasimov (BEL) WR 273 and (q2) Andre Ghem (BRA) WR 200.



-- Edited by steven on Friday 9th of May 2014 09:00:59 PM

__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html



Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 17423
Date:

What's the betting Kyle draws one of the Brits.....

__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Online
Posts: 58025
Date:

steven wrote:
[...] The seeds in Alec's section are (q6) Egor Gerasimov (BEL) WR 273 and (q2) Andre Ghem (BRA) WR 200.

Alec? confuse wink



__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34418
Date:

Not a sudden attempt to change his name - c is next to x on the keyboard!

__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html



Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34418
Date:

Turns out Evo is a late withdrawal form Heilbronn (though I suppose by Dan's standards, before the draw is early!)

__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html



Tennis legend

Status: Online
Posts: 58025
Date:

steven wrote:

Turns out Evo is a late withdrawal form Heilbronn (though I suppose by Dan's standards, before the draw is early!)


 Why do we bother? disbelief



__________________


Challenger level

Status: Offline
Posts: 2580
Date:

I'm sure we'll see Dan again at some point in the Futures.....(the way it's going at the moment anyway cry)



__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 17423
Date:

It's embarrassing.......

__________________


All-time great

Status: Offline
Posts: 5519
Date:

paulisi wrote:

It's embarrassing.......

 

I could understand this if we knew and didn't agree with Dan's reason for withdrawal. I'm not making excuses for Dan but until we know that facts why the criticism? Dan played in Irving and retired - the reason given "left knee". He played the following week an lost a match we had expected him to win. He played last week and lost a match we expected him to win. He has withdrawn from the main draw of a Challenger this week. Any chance he still has a niggle with his knee?

I know he was seen at a football match recently but an injury wouldn't prevent that - unless of course he was playing! If you want to criticise Dan, go ahead. But at least wait until you have the facts.

 

 



__________________


Futures qualifying

Status: Offline
Posts: 1785
Date:

I wonder whether he feels up to the FO qualies.  It would be  nice to have more information we has has withdrawn. he retired from a match in Texas in March, maybe it is the same niggle.  Let's hope he can be prepared for the grass court season which starts in Nottingham in just a couple of weeks.

On an unrelated note, (wrong thread as well, sorry) I think there is every chance Andy will drop out of the top 10 after Wimbledon. I don't think his form is good enough to do much at the French, and he is defending a bucket load of grass court points.

Anyway, enjoy the w/e, shame about the weather!



__________________


Challenger level

Status: Offline
Posts: 2443
Date:

SMC1809 wrote:
paulisi wrote:

It's embarrassing.......

 

I could understand this if we knew and didn't agree with Dan's reason for withdrawal. I'm not making excuses for Dan but until we know that facts why the criticism? Dan played in Irving and retired - the reason given "left knee". He played the following week an lost a match we had expected him to win. He played last week and lost a match we expected him to win. He has withdrawn from the main draw of a Challenger this week. Any chance he still has a niggle with his knee?

I know he was seen at a football match recently but an injury wouldn't prevent that - unless of course he was playing! If you want to criticise Dan, go ahead. But at least wait until you have the facts.

 

 


 All very fair, balanced and British.

I would suggest, however, that if certain folks are assuming (perhaps incorrectly on this occasion, although I doubt it) that it's yet another Dan trademark "unexplained" withdrawal or "unusual" change of plan.......then this is simply due to 6 years of data points!! If PaddyPower were running a book on this, they would probably have "random unexplained withdrawal" on shorter odds than "illness or injury", given Dan's history.

Dan has taken the opportunity of commenting via twitter on Bedene's potential GB DC eligibility, albeit he has removed his original tweet which was probably for the best, given it's tone and intent.......Dan certainly is much more British than Bedene. He may or may not be more talented. But he almost certainly is less reliable in terms of turning up for the training and the match......

I certainly hope Dan is fit for FO qualies and that he decides to turn up.....although it may be a fruitless endeavour, given his lack of form or practice on clay. He certainly shouldn't be too "exhausted" in 2014, after he complained of tiredness at the end of 2013!



__________________


All-time great

Status: Offline
Posts: 5519
Date:

Trouble is, 90% of those data points are assumed. Innocent until proven to be Evo.

__________________


Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 40947
Date:

Off course, some scepticism about Dan is natural with the body of evidence and his own admissions about past lack of dedication. And, yes, that withdrawal from Asian Challengers late last year due to 'tiredness' ( admittedly I only read that reason from Gary ) was classic. Your average tennis player has to actually play quite a lot of tennis matches before err 'tiredness' is an issue.

But while I detect a little burying head in sand above, it is absolutely fair comment that we know no facts here, but do know that Dan has recently had a knee problem.

So it is out of order to call this particular withdrawal 'embarrassing', whatever one's thoughts and suspicions.

__________________


Challenger level

Status: Offline
Posts: 2566
Date:

QR1: Alex Ward WR 362 d. Christian Hirschmüller (GER) WR 1166 6-0 6-0

I thought this would be routine yet Alex dropped 16pts out of 68 in the match disbelief

 

biggrin



__________________

 Its really not as bad as they say :)



Tennis legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 34418
Date:

QR2: Alex Ward WR 362 v (q6) Egor Gerasimov (BLR) WR 273 (CH 251 last Dec)

L32: James Ward WR 168 v Andreas Beck (GER) WR 146 (CH 33 in 2009)
L32: (WC) Kyle Edmund WR 275 v (2) Dustin Brown (GER) WR 89 (CH 86 last month)

Ouch for Kyle ... could be tricky for James (who is in the same quarter) too.

__________________

GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!

GB top 25s (ranks, whereabouts) & stats - http://www.britishtennis.net/stats.html

1 2 311  >  Last»  | Page of 11  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard