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QR1: Rogan Egerton UNR v Jonathan Poon (USA) UNR



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Rogan played his first ITF event in 2002, and played them regularly since 2007. The 1st QR here was his 45th win in qualifying yet he has never gained a ranking point. If anyone deserves a place in the rankings, it's this guy.

Here's a challenge steven. Is 45 wins a record without picking up a ranking point?



-- Edited by john on Saturday 21st of September 2013 09:54:11 PM

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QR1: Rogan Egerton UNR beat Jonathan Poon (USA) UNR : 6-4, 7-6(5)

QR2: Rogan Egerton UNR v (q4) Charles Boyce (USA) WR 1581

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Even more incredibly, he has won 45 qualifying matches yet only ever actually qualified for a main draw once!

For info, he lost 2 & 3 to a certain Mr Colin Fleming in Cumberland 2009

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john wrote:

Rogan played his first ITF event in 2002, and played them regularly since 2007. The 1st QR here was his 45th win in qualifying yet he has never gained a ranking point. If anyone deserves a place in the rankings, it's this guy.

Here's a challenge steven. Is 45 wins a record without picking up a ranking point?

 

Although it shows a fair bit of perseverance, I was pretty sure it wouldn't be a record and that it would be fairly easy to find a quick counterexample from players who take part in the huge qualifying draws in the US and Spain on a regular basis. I thought I'd try Kyle's opponents in US Futures qualifying early this year and the very first one, Mark Oljaca, turned out to have won 114 singles matches in Futures and Challenger qualifying without ever picking up a singles ranking point!

If I had to hazard a guess at what the record might be ... maybe around 200. I've no idea though.



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QR2: Rogan Egerton UNR beat (q4) Charles Boyce (USA) WR 1581 : 6-1, 0-1 ret

QR3: Rogan Egerton UNR v Felix Van Kann (GER) UNR

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I've only ever seen Egerton once and it was a good 4-5 years ago now but he was foul tempered, argued about almost every line call and smashed a pint glass all over the outdoor court he was playing on when he lost. British answer to Klein.

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I thought Klein was British?

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Salmon wrote:

I thought Klein was British?

 yes and no!



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freerider wrote:
Salmon wrote:

I thought Klein was British?

 yes and no!

I'll lay a small wager that if his ranking rebounds towards the top 100 or 150 (and on current form, there's no chance of that any time soon), he'll switch back to being an Australian again. If Tennis Australia think they need him, he'll suddenly rediscover the Australian side of his parentage and background. 



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QR3: Felix Van Kann (GER) UNR beat Rogan Egerton UNR 6-1 4-6 6-1

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johnnylad wrote:

I've only ever seen Egerton once and it was a good 4-5 years ago now but he was foul tempered, argued about almost every line call and smashed a pint glass all over the outdoor court he was playing on when he lost. British answer to Klein.

I've seen him before he seemed a bit crazy but invariably good natured. I remember he asked my opinion of a line call (he had called it out when it was in).



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I probably caught him on a bad day

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korriban wrote:
freerider wrote:
Salmon wrote:

I thought Klein was British?

 yes and no!

I'll lay a small wager that if his ranking rebounds towards the top 100 or 150 (and on current form, there's no chance of that any time soon), he'll switch back to being an Australian again. If Tennis Australia think they need him, he'll suddenly rediscover the Australian side of his parentage and background. 

 

I'm not suggesting that Calvin is going to do anything like that, but they need to introduce a rule that if you change your nationality, you should be ineligible for Davis Cup for 3 years. I'm all for people changing nationalities, but let's see how much you want it.



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There is a rule already, but it is that you can only play Davis Cup for a country if you have not represented another country in any ITF team competition for at least 18 months and you also have to have lived in the new country for 24 consecutive months at some time in your life.

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