Week 16 - Greece F3 ($10,000) - Heraklion - Outdoor 'Carpet'

steven · Tennis legend

Week 16 - Greece F3 ($10,000) - Heraklion - Outdoor 'Carpet'

steven · Tennis legend

QR1: (q15) Harry David Meehan WR 1909 beat Ethan Tulliani (AUS) UNR by 2 & 4

QR1: Luke Wainwright UNR lost to (q13) Antoine Champagne (BEL) WR 1618 by 2 & 0

QR1: (q12) Miles Bugby WR 1515 beat Nikola Bismpikos (GRE) UNR by 0 & 0

QR2: (q15) Harry David Meehan WR 1909 v Jessy Kalambay (SUI) UNR
QR2: (q12) Miles Bugby WR 1515 v Alexandros-Georgios Vakouftsis (GRE) UNR

steven · Tennis legend

QR2: (q15) Harry David Meehan WR 1909 lost to Jessy Kalambay (SUI) UNR by 3 & 2 bleh
QR2: (q12) Miles Bugby WR 1515 beat Alexandros-Georgios Vakouftsis (GRE) UNR by 1 & 2

FQR: (q12) Miles Bugby WR 1515 beat (q8) Luca Margaroli (SUI) WR 1225 by 1 & 4 biggrin

L32: (1) Josh Goodall WR 241 v Yannick Jankovits (FRA) WR 536
L32: (Q) Miles Bugby WR 1520 v (LL) José-Ricardo Nunes (POR) WR 1205
L32: (7) Andrew Fitzpatrick WR 551 v (Q) João Domingues (POR) WR 1293

All three Brits are in the top half of the draw. The winners of the last two matches above play each other in R2.

Three Brits are no. 1 seeds in Futures this week - what chance 3 titles? (approximately zero, I imagine)

Yankovits beat Bloomers last week then went out to the unseeded Brit-basher Jakupovic, who went on to take the title.

-- Edited by steven on Monday 16th of April 2012 03:53:31 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

R1: (1) Mazimilian Neuchrist & Mate Pavic (AUT/CRO) WR 699 vs Anton Bettink (NZL) & Miles Bugby UNR bleh

R1: Markos Kalovelonis & Charolampos Kapogiannis (GRE/GRE) UNR vs Andrew Fitzpatrick & Evan Song (USA) UNR

mjd · Challenger qualifying

Live score for Josh should be here (game by game)

http://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/SfrH2ZEA/?of=uk#match-summary

and here

http://www.bet365.com/home/FlashGen4/WebConsoleApp.asp?affiliate=365_027250

-- Edited by mjd on Tuesday 17th of April 2012 09:05:21 AM

Gary Denton · Intermediate Club Player

Judging by the way the score rattled along and so few points taken against serve, until the 12th game of the second set of course, there weren't too many protracted rallies!

A convincing win against a potentially tricky opponent ( last week's runner-up ) on a dodgy surface, which Josh hadn't played on before.. Good going I would suggest.

Having seen Josh play before, I'm surprised his ranking isn't higher. He has a good range of shots, maybe over-reliant on the forehand, can serve and volley and looked in good form in the Davis Cup against players who play at a higher level. Is his temperament a problem? Does he lack self-belief?I'm just puzzled.

-- Edited by Gary Denton on Tuesday 17th of April 2012 10:57:12 AM

mjd · Challenger qualifying

good photo of Fitzy (Aegon tour event) here

http://www.lta.org.uk/fans-major-events/AEGON-British-Tour/News/2012/Andrew-Fitzpatrick-wins-second-AEGON-British-Tour-title-of-the-year/

RainDelay · Pro player

Josh wins 7-6(4) 7-5

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

R1: (1) Maximilian Neuchrist & Mate Pavic (AUT/CRO) WR 699 defeated Anton Bettink (NZL) & Miles Bugby UNR by 4 & 4

R1: Markos Kalovelonis & Charolampos Kapogiannis (GRE/GRE) UNR lost to Andrew Fitzpatrick & Evan Song (USA) UNR by 3 & 4

*****

QF: Andrew Fitzpatrick & Evan Song (USA) UNR vs (3) Maximilian Dinslaken & George von Massow (GER/GER) WR 1536 bleh

-- Edited by Stircrazy on Friday 20th of April 2012 11:00:33 AM

Ratty · County player

Gary Denton wrote:
Having seen Josh play before, I'm surprised his ranking isn't higher. He has a good range of shots, maybe over-reliant on the forehand, can serve and volley and looked in good form in the Davis Cup against players who play at a higher level. Is his temperament a problem? Does he lack self-belief?I'm just puzzled.

Couldn't you say the same about anyone in the top 500 ATP?

Outside the top 5-10, I think that the differences between players are not really noticeable to anyone apart from tennis insiders.

One player might be better at shot-making, and another will compensate with better mobility, etc. The only way most people can tell the difference in overall ability is who wins, surely?

Josh Goodall is 26 now, and IMO his ranking history suggests that he will do well to make a sustained rise above 200.

Gary Denton · Intermediate Club Player

So it's all about age then? Murray appears to be maturing about now, isn't he 26 or more? Federer's not exactly thrown in the towel, has he? I'm not sure it's that straightforward. I personally think psychology has a big part to play in how far a player can go. Mental strength, if you will? You may be right about Josh, but I'm not sure you could use his age as a factor.

Ratty · County player

I'm sure you're right, but I would guess that the number of players who have made significant advances up the rankings late on in their careers is pretty low.

(I can think of Stephane Robert, who first reached the top 100 when he was 29, but I think that's extremely unusual.)

I saw Josh lose in 4 sets to Mathieu at the US Open in 2006 - there was not much to choose between them, but somehow it was just obvious that Mathieu would win. Who would have thought that over 5 years later Josh's ranking would be much the same as it was then, but then that's the unforgiving nature and fine margins of professional sport.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Gary Denton wrote:
So it's all about age then? Murray appears to be maturing about now, isn't he 26 or more? Federer's not exactly thrown in the towel, has he? I'm not sure it's that straightforward. I personally think psychology has a big part to play in how far a player can go. Mental strength, if you will? You may be right about Josh, but I'm not sure you could use his age as a factor.

Murray will be 25 next month.

Fitzy · Intermediate Club Player

good photo of my forearms there guys ha ;).
won doubles 63 64. good prep for my match tomorrow, find out which court i will be hashing away on tomorrow.
Balance is key, the minute i dont stay with your shoulders ontop of your feet thats it, might as well kiss the point good bye as your sliding all over the place.

Gary Denton · Intermediate Club Player

Ratty wrote:
I saw Josh lose in 4 sets to Mathieu at the US Open in 2006 - there was not much to choose between them, but somehow it was just obvious that Mathieu would win. Who would have thought that over 5 years later Josh's ranking would be much the same as it swas then, but then that's the unforgiving nature and fine margins of professional sport.

Therein lies the conundrum. Why was it obvious that Mathieu would win? Is it just because we expect less from our players? There's no doubting Josh's ability but does he? Must be very frustrating for him. When margins are tight, it comes down to self-belief. I thought exactly the same when Josh lost the second set against Darcis ; his body language seemed to concede defeat. It's a great shame because he is a class act.