Week 32 - ATP 1000 series: Rogers Cup, Montréal (hard) - doubles

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Week 32 - ATP 1000 series: Rogers Cup, Montréal (hard) - doubles

scottie1 · Futures level

Is all this changing partners doing Jamie any good. Andy does not play doubles at every tournament

RJA · Hall of fame

scottie1 wrote:
Is all this changing partners doing Jamie any good. Andy does not play doubles at every tournament

I would say that chamging his partner ever week is wrecking his career and that he is now reliant on Andy playing with him in a few big events to prop up his ranking. Half of his current points are from 3 events (2 X ATP 500 and 1 masters series) where he has played with Andy.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

My feelings exactly.

S&V · Club Coach

But if they are to play in the Olympics they do need competitive practice?

Josh · Challenger level

Olympics is a whole year away anyway! It seems Jamie holds a false ranking when all his best results are alongside one of the best players in the world. Must be very annoying for someone like Skupski who is struggling to make ATP cuts and Jamie can just enter a Masters Series whenever he wants.

steven · Tennis legend

Josh wrote:
Olympics is a whole year away anyway! It seems Jamie holds a false ranking when all his best results are alongside one of the best players in the world. Must be very annoying for someone like Skupski who is struggling to make ATP cuts and Jamie can just enter a Masters Series whenever he wants.

I wonder if that's another reason why he doesn't seem to be able to get a regular partner - i.e. that they think that given the chance to play with Andy, he won't think twice before deserting them. Whether that's true/fair or not, I don't know, but if the other players think it, that's probably enough to put some of them off.

RJA · Hall of fame

S&V wrote:
But if they are to play in the Olympics they do need competitive practice?

I don't mind Andy and Jamie playing together on occasions.

What bothers me is Jamie using those few events to prop up his ranking while seeming to treat his career as a bit of a joke.

-- Edited by RJA on Sunday 7th of August 2011 11:37:13 PM

Josh · Challenger level

steven wrote:
Josh wrote:
Olympics is a whole year away anyway! It seems Jamie holds a false ranking when all his best results are alongside one of the best players in the world. Must be very annoying for someone like Skupski who is struggling to make ATP cuts and Jamie can just enter a Masters Series whenever he wants.
I wonder if that's another reason why he doesn't seem to be able to get a regular partner - i.e. that they think that given the chance to play with Andy, he won't think twice before deserting them. Whether that's true/fair or not, I don't know, but if the other players think it, that's probably enough to put some of them off.

Well his track record isn't too good either. Booty has gone on to have a much better career after Jamie supposedly 'dumped' him and Mirnyi has gone on to win major titles while he struggled to remain in the top 30 whilst playing with Jamie.

steven · Tennis legend

Josh wrote:
Well his track record isn't too good either. Booty has gone on to have a much better career after Jamie supposedly 'dumped' him and Mirnyi has gone on to win major titles while he struggled to remain in the top 30 whilst playing with Jamie.

That's why I said "another" reason ...

The thing is, from what I've seen, he's not a bad doubles player at all (perhaps not the best in Britain, but decent enough), it's just that his periodic access to Andy (and his head getting turned by 'better' offers while he was with Booty, which may also have had something to do with him being Andy's brother, who knows) seems to have hindered his career more than it has helped it, to the extent that he now needs to play with Andy from time to time to have any chance of keeping his ranking up.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Let's face it Jamie is arguably a better mixed doubles player than mens doubles player and so his doubles ranking gives him the opportunity to attract a top womens singles player with which to played mixed at the slams.

scottie1 · Futures level

Still dont think he should be playing Davis Cup with Andy. A fit Fleming/Hutchins should be the team. Andy moans about playing three matches so he should step out of the doubles. jamie is overranked in doubles.
I still haven't got over the laugh of him playing serve volley on clay in Edinburgh against Flanagan all those years ago

S&V · Club Coach

I wonder what Andys mindset is, try to go deep or lose and go to Cincy to get aclimatized.

Madeline · Admin:Moderator + Tennis Legend

Well if he plays like yesterday, they will lose anyway. Jamie can't prop him up.

helki · Futures qualifying

The match has just started. The bruvs manage to hold the first game.