QR1: Ashley Hewitt WR 1271 lost to (q2) Marc Giner (ESP) WR 765 by 2 & 3 QR1: James Marsalek WR 1217 beat Alejandro Augusto Bueno (ESP) UNR by 2 & 1 QR1: Tom Allen UNR beat (q12) Roberto Rodriguez-Alonso (ESP) WR 1091 by 4 & 0 QR1: (q10) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 beat Jose Anton Salazar Martin (ESP) UNR by 6-3 4-6 7-5 QR1: (q16) Oliver Golding WR 1152 beat Ivan Gomez Mantilla (ESP) WR 1317 by 6-2 7-6(2) QR1: Philip Barlow WR 1252 lost to Pedro Sakamoto (BRA) WR 1403 by 6-7(8) 6-4 6-3
QR2: James Marsalek WR 1217 v (q15) Mathieu Roy (FRA) WR 1149 QR2: Tom Allen UNR v Juan Jose Leal-Gomez (ESP) WR 1727 QR2: (q10) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 v Bruno Alvarez (BEL) UNR QR2: (q16) Oliver Golding WR 1152 v Borja Rodriguez Manzano (ESP) WR 1614
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GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!
At least two Brits in the FQR by the looks of it - Oli tweets: "Me and @Marzi7 just grinding down europeans on the dirt both in 3 tight sets .. That's what brits to best isn't it ?"
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GB on a shirt, Davis Cup still gleaming, 79 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming ... 29/11/2015 that dream came true!
QR2: James Marsalek WR 1217 d (q15) Mathieu Roy (FRA) WR 1149 6-3 3-6 6-3 QR2: Tom Allen UNR d Juan Jose Leal-Gomez (ESP) WR 1727 2-6 6-3 7-6(6) QR2: (q10) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 d Bruno Alvarez (BEL) UNR 6-2 6-1 QR2: (q16) Oliver Golding WR 1152 d Borja Rodriguez Manzano (ESP) WR 1614 2-6 6-2 6-4
FQR: James Marsalek WR 1217 v OJEDA LARA, Ricardo (ESP) 1271 FQR: Tom Allen UNR v BOIS, Michael (FRA) 1365 FQR: (q10) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 v ZEBALLOS, Federico (BOL) (q5) 824 FQR: (q16) Oliver Golding WR 1152 v LOPEZ VILLA, Carlos (ESP) WC UNR
FQR: James Marsalek WR 1217 beat OJEDA LARA, Ricardo (ESP) 1271 by 2 & 0 FQR: Tom Allen UNR lost to BOIS, Michael (FRA) 1365 by 2 & 1 FQR: (q10) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 lost to ZEBALLOS, Federico (BOL) (q5) 824 by 3 & 4 FQR: (q16) Oliver Golding WR 1152 beat LOPEZ VILLA, Carlos (ESP) WC UNR by 3 & 1
L32: (Q) Oliver Golding WR 1152 v (WC) Roberto Ortega-Olmedo (ESP) WR 798 L32: (Q) James Marsalek WR 1217 v (7) Alexandre Folie (BEL) WR 477 L32: (LL) Jack Carpenter WR 1076 v (WC) Abraham Gonzalez-Jimenez (ESP) WR 689 L32: Alex Slabinsky WR 527 v Carlos Gomez-Herrera (ESP) WR 563
Really interested to see what Golding and Marsalek especially can do here. Not being an expert on the juniors, I get the feeling that Oli should be winning this kind of match, or at least getting close? It seems like this season is sort of crunch time for their age group, so would top 800/900 by the end of the year be a reasonable target, do we think?
It's definitely good to see the likes of Oli, James & Jack in Futures MDs though. Back-to-back Madrid titles might be a bit much to ask for this week though!
Really interested to see what Golding and Marsalek especially can do here. Not being an expert on the juniors, I get the feeling that Oli should be winning this kind of match, or at least getting close? It seems like this season is sort of crunch time for their age group, so would top 800/900 by the end of the year be a reasonable target, do we think?
I think the target for Oli and George (Morgan) should be much higher. The gold standard for juniors is to be top 500 ATP by the end of their junior career. Usually up to 10 make it, and most of these feature in the top 100 at some point in their career. The current top 1993 boy Tiago Fernandes has just reached a Challenger final and will move into the top 400.
There are of course plenty of exceptions who have come through later, but most of these (eg Henman 771 and Davydenko 658 ) had insignificant junior careers and improved rapidly in their late teens. Oli and George have already achieved in junior tennis, so it is important that they try to keep up with their peers, and they have a lot to do.
Bearing in mind many of our top Juniours do not go on to top 100, what you say is very interesting David. I think we have some excellent prospects coming through from this age group but, what you say there seems a very task ask.
I did find it of some concern that in the recent Akhenaten rankings ( which are Akhenaten's special rankings that take account of the opponents that wins and losses are against ) that in the 9 months since Wimbledon last year Oli appears to have fallen back in overall world terms and has been overtaken by quite a number of his peers.
Hopefully Oli will soon start making clear forward progress again because he is a real talent, who one would certainly think was at the very least top 100 potential.
However, David's post does give some indication of where one would be hoping Oli ( and George ) would have advanced to in senior rankings come the end of this year ( the end of their junior careers ).
Top 500 currently represents around 60 ranking points. Alex Ward ( the GB no 13 ) is ranked WR 499 on 62 points.
As a balance, someone did point out in another thread that Oli does have an attacking style that may take longer to really groom and come through. He is also one of the younger 1993 boys, being born on 29th September. George was born on 7th February.
-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 12th of April 2011 07:11:09 AM