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Morgan Phillips "interview"


This article appeared in the Daily Mail on Boxing Day (too old for LTA funding at 25!).  Was at my mother's for the Christmas/New Year hols at the time & that's her daily paper.  Had the laptop with me, but the only available signal was both weak (two bars) & "security-enabled", so I couldn't use it as a "piggy-back" to get on line! cry Apologies if it's already been posted, but if it has, I couldn't see it.

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Thanks for that SC....god I hope he wins a challenger this year and sticks it right up the LTA

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Thanks SC, very interesting article and it's good to see Morgan getting a higher profile for all his efforts.

You'd think the LTA might have taken the fact that he was out for nearly 2 years due to a freak accident and the efforts he's made to make his career in difficult places into account (remember all that stuff a couple of years back about them wanting players to spread their wings ...), wouldn't you, but then again I guess moving to Spain means he was never likely to be considered one of 'theirs'. You'd think AEGON would like to be sponsoring a player with such a good back-story too ...

Of course, we hardly ever learn the full story behind stuff like this so maybe shouldn't be too quick to judge. evileye

Good to see from the mention of the '77%' that the Daily Mail reads BT.net (or OEM) too ... never did I think I'd see the day when my method for calculating ranking changes would gain such universal acceptance wink but I guess it's not just me who finds it useful to have a figure that can be used to compare moves by players starting at different levels in the rankings (including unranked), even if the method is still slightly dodgy! ashamed

Best of all, it looks like Sheddie is in danger of losing his 'ultimate tennis shedman' status! biggrin

"At the root of his scrapes has been lack of money and he has slept ... in a shed in Poland on a bed that was so short it barely reached past his waist."

-- Edited by steven on Thursday 7th of January 2010 10:25:33 AM

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I think we ascertained that sheddies sheds were in fact palatial, they had a good enough electricity supply for his PC after all.



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on topic again. it was a good article, i hadn't seen it b4 so thanks for bringing it to light SC.

but I'm not surprised he didn't get funding, Boggo (25) & Josh (24) both with higher rankings lost theirs. Now whilst they certainly have had plenty in the past compared to Morgan, especially in Boggo's case, the fact the LTA saw fit to drop them would indicate they are going for a fairly strict age policy.

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but then Skupski (26) was added this year for the first time - deserving due to him kocking on the door of top 50 doubles at least - but does that indicate its more very strict, and low, ranking based?

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yes the 3 doubles guys all ranked under 60 got funding, which is fair enough. its not purely age based as you say, if a singles guy was ranked around 110+ I think they get funding whatever their age

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Don't know if it would be 110 or let's say a general ranking mark for almost certainly giving fnding would be x.

Then the equation would be  WR  <  x  -  b   ( where b = a figure chosen at will by the by the LTA and inserted into the equation if your surname is Bogdanovic ).

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As to the article, yes a really good read, thanks Stircrazy.  If there is some too rigid age / overall ranking thing in the LTA funding system that can't adapt to circumstances like Morgan's ( what he has been through, particularly with injury, and his big leap up the rankings ) then I would say that it is a system that isn't truelly fit for purpose.

Great to see all that ambition that is still there, a guy going in the right direction that believes he could be the GB no 2.  A guy to be encouraged and helped !

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You're right there Count Zero, the irony of it is of course that any singles player ranked 110+ wouldn not really require any funding as they would be making very good money from prize money and endorsements, almost all of the tournaments they play would provide accomodation, and for main draw players Grand Slams and Masters series usually contribute to travel expenses!

On another note regarding Morgan Phillips - he is an excellent player whose ranking will improve again this year, and I personally think he should have recieved some of the Team Aegon funding, however, I think a little too much has been made of his travels and adventures. Every touring player would have similar stories to tell from their time on the tour. It shouldn't be made out that he deserves it more because of the rigours he has been through on his travels! Just a thought!

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Here's a thought, John Lloyd earns in the region of £80k as a DC captain. Now why don't we just do away with the position, tell Andy to pick the team (takes 5 mins) and let them go on their merry way to the ties. they can get some kind of stuffed dummy to sit on the bench during matches (maybe more insightful with tactics too). that frees up £80k, so 8 more players can get £10k needed to help with travel for the year.

i don't believe £10k would cover the costs of travel for a player who plays full time on the challenger tour either.

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indiana wrote:

Don't know if it would be 110 or let's say a general ranking mark for almost certainly giving fnding would be x.

Then the equation would be  WR  <  x  -  b   ( where b = a figure chosen at will by the by the LTA and inserted into the equation if your surname is Bogdanovic ).



the players do get targets set rankings that's true,, ones i assume that are individually based. Boggo's was 100 (and as CC pointed out were he to achieve that then he wouldnt need the lta anyway!) and he is obviously treated different to some of the others, Boggo hasnt finished a year outside the top 200 since 2003 btw.

i would also think that the funding provided to the 43 players on the list comes to less, per year, than roger drapers salary. should that be the case?

 



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10k isn't far off to be fair Count. For a player to have a pretty standard travelling year on the Futures tour, whilst also playing the British Futures when possible we have worked it out to cost somewhere between 12 and 15k, that is not taking into account any potential prize money they may earn. Someone playing regulary on the Challenger circuit would earn quite a bit more in prize money, plus many Challengers are '+H' so that that save quite a bit. Again, a Challenger level if they wished could earn easily 5-6k by giving up 4 weekends of the year to play German (or French, Belgian etc) league tennis. On top of that is the new improved British Tour where a Challenger player would expect to pick up the £750 cheque if he chose to play. They have got options.

Having said that, I've expressed this view before but I'll say it again - Bogdanovic is still by some distance our second best singles player, and as such he should get some support.

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Dead right about the top 110 not needing the funding.

I shouldn't think the top 60 dubs guys need it either?

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steven wrote:

Thanks SC, very interesting article and it's good to see Morgan getting a higher profile for all his efforts.


You're welcome, Steven.  I agree that the article made for heartening reading, especially given Morgan's stoicism (or should that be resigned acceptance?) in the face of his treatment by the LTA, & was delighted to see him, a relative unknown as far as the national collective consciousness is concerned, finally being given a well-earned bit of the tennis limelight.  That said, I confess I was flabbergasted that a paper such as the Mail should be the one to drag him into that limelight by devoting an entire page of its sports section to his exploits (I've kept the page in question! wink )! disbelief

 



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