Career and Best Wins

The Magician Santoro · Top national player

Career and Best Wins

Grundon · Intermediate Club Player

Nice idea

As its quite easy now to look at a players career history on the new atp site how about if each forum member provides their opinion for one player only (before Steven provides a whole list

) and then suggests the next player to research

I'll start off with Morgan Phillips as his stunning win on clay at Italy F14 back in May 2006 was the result that eventually brought me to this messageboard

Morgan was ranked 751 at the time and he beat Nick van der Meer (NED) in the final (who was ranked 507) 6-3 6-3. His best scalp in that tournament was his quarter final victim (the Australian Paul Baccanello) who was ranked 360

I think his best win in terms of ranking was beating Pablo Andujar (ESP) 1-6 6-4 6-0 in March 2007 who was ranked 206, again on clay.

If anyone thinks this idea is worth continuing can the next person post for Boggo (can someone beat the Count to it)

Salmon · Tennis legend

Nice thread.

And totally agree about Morgan. The win is even more impressive since Andujar improved a hell lot soon after that.

I say that Boggo's best win is the one he got over Jo Johansson at Nottingham. Best tournament has to be Queen's 2007, surely?

What does Count say?

Next up : Robert Dee.

alex03maccy · Grand Slam Champion

it would have to be closest match for him, from no wins. i apologise.

steven · Tennis legend

Good idea, this thread could run and run - it'll be a good place to start recording new career best wins too.

Salmon wrote:
Next up : Robert Dee.

Robert Dee

His best win (at ITF level anyway, in case the lawyers are watching!) would have to be the one against Derakhshani, not only because it broke his duck but because Derakhshani has a 5-17 career record whereas Betancourt-Riverol is 0-11.

Best performances against ranked players were probably taking 2 games off van der Merwe, now ranked 224, in Botswana in 2005 and a 5-7 set v Fattar, now ranked 615, in 2007.

Alex Ward

His breakthrough win was probably when he beat no. 3 seed Bautista-Agut, then ranked 485, in R2 in Balaguer last year (his R1 win having gained him his first ranking point), which set up his run to the Final there.

James Ward

Isn't Spadea the highest ranked player he's beaten (6-0 5-2 ret. in Sarasota when Spadea was ranked 105)? His best result has to be beating no. 4 seed Carsten Ball (WR 213 at the time) in the Final to win that tournament, though Wardy is now ranked higher than that himself of course.

Chris Eaton

Another easy one - highest ranked player beaten Pashanski (WR 114 at the time) in R1 at Wimby 2008, best performance was probably the win against Patience (WR 161 at the time) that got him there.

-- Edited by steven on Friday 24th of July 2009 04:24:54 PM

Smidster · Challenger level

Cracking idea - so many ways we can take it as well (Highest ranked player beaten, Biggest ranking differential, personal opinion etc)

The Magician Santoro · Top national player

Salmon wrote:

Nice thread. And totally agree about Morgan. The win is even more impressive since Andujar improved a hell lot soon after that.

I say that Boggo's best win is the one he got over Jo Johansson at Nottingham. Best tournament has to be Queen's 2007, surely?

What does Count say?

Next up : Robert Dee.

Boggo's highest ranked victory came in Queen's 2007 where he beat world no. 47 Hyung Taik-Lee in straight sets

Salmon · Tennis legend

By best do you necessarily mean a win against the highest ranked player? Or against the best player he's beaten?

The Magician Santoro · Top national player

Salmon wrote:

By best do you necessarily mean a win against the highest ranked player? Or against the best player he's beaten?

The difference between being career best and best, career best is highest ever ranked player beaten while best victory could be winning a final or where they played to a high standard of tennis. So in Boggo's case his career best victory was beating Lee whilst his best victory would be over Johansson in Nottingham

I hope that cleared things up?

Salmon · Tennis legend

No, now I am doubly confused!

Let it be, I have a penchant for getting confused easily.

ForeverDelayed · Grand Slam Champion

Maybe the terminology used is causing the problem....

Career best win = ranking best win... the highest ranked player than the player has beaten

Best victory = win when the player played the best tennis/most important in terms of his career/a result that changed the momentum of a career etc.

So say for Murray... his career best win would be his win over Federer in Cinci or Nadal in Rotterdam this year when ranked number one, but his best victory would be Nadal US Open or Djokovic in the Cinci final or even Gasquet at Wimbledon.

jezzauk · Lower Club Player

we mustn't forget Flanagan beating Phillipousis, although I think following that up against Hanescu was pretty impressive too.

spud · Challenger qualifying

Goodalls wins coming from US Open/Wimbledon qualies 2006? A lot of good results in that year for him.

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

off the top of my head, just best wins

Baker - Acasuso, AO 2008

Eaton - Ram or Patience, Pashanski was a bum, Wimble 2008

Willis - Delic, ?

Evo - Stadler, Jersey

Coxy - Bellucci, Norway F5

JWard - Spadea, that challenger he won

AWard - Marray on grass maybe?, that futures he almost won

Boggo - Jojo, Queen's 07, Mons 06?

Goodall - never beaten anyone good, Delhi 08

Slabbers - Scoville?, ?

Bloomers - VV, Wimble 2006

Marray - Arthurs on grass, any grasscourt tournie from 04/05

Flanagan - Flip, Queen's 04

-- Edited by The Knight on Friday 24th of July 2009 09:59:53 PM

mjd · Challenger qualifying

Bloomers best win (ranking wise) was to beat Vladimir Voltchov (WR66) in straight sets at Surbiton in 2003.
But his best match was probably the match against Arnoud Clement (WR90) in Washington ATP 2005 which although losing he took a set and only lost 7-9 in the final set TB.
The most exciting match must surely have been last years match at Queens against Fernando Gonzalez (WR15), losing with a 1st set TB and remembering especially that one game that lasted around a quarter of an hour only losing serve once on the penultimate game.
I think what I am trying to say is a 'best match' is not necessarily a won match.

edit:
Of course you may have realised that I omitted Bloomers 1st round win at Wimbledon against Carlos Berlocq (WR85) as this was unfairly matched against an almost 100% clay court player. I was there and it was nowhere near as exciting as the others I mentioned not even as good as the matches against Feliciano Lopez, Lleyton Hewitt or Tommy Haas but on paper it should really be listed as one of the best!

-- Edited by mjd on Friday 24th of July 2009 11:36:58 PM