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If Palermo goes ahead and Jo is playing it, she will be top seed as Simona has now said she won't be able to play due to quarantine rules.


 If Palermo  goes ahead and Jo is playing and is top seed we must hope the claycourt  Jo of 2019 turns up. Anything like  other previous years and she'll struggle to get through the first round. 


 Stu Fraser says this was a back up in case the US tournaments get called off and she(?) will make a decision tomorrow. Or the tournaments will (as the entry lists are due out tomorrow) 

Andy also plans to play in US.



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flamingowings wrote:
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If Palermo goes ahead and Jo is playing it, she will be top seed as Simona has now said she won't be able to play due to quarantine rules.


 If Palermo  goes ahead and Jo is playing and is top seed we must hope the claycourt  Jo of 2019 turns up. Anything like  other previous years and she'll struggle to get through the first round. 


 Stu Fraser says this was a back up in case the US tournaments get called off and she(?) will make a decision tomorrow. Or the tournaments will (as the entry lists are due out tomorrow) 

Andy also plans to play in US.


 It's like gambling on 2 horses. Jo's name seemed to have disappeared from Prague. The organisers of Palermo were none too pleased with Simona Halep pulling out. 



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flamingowings wrote:
ROSAMUND wrote:
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If Palermo goes ahead and Jo is playing it, she will be top seed as Simona has now said she won't be able to play due to quarantine rules.


 If Palermo  goes ahead and Jo is playing and is top seed we must hope the claycourt  Jo of 2019 turns up. Anything like  other previous years and she'll struggle to get through the first round. 


 Stu Fraser says this was a back up in case the US tournaments get called off and she(?) will make a decision tomorrow. Or the tournaments will (as the entry lists are due out tomorrow) 

Andy also plans to play in US.


 Reported now that Jo has pulled out of Palermo and playing  Lexington instead. No doubt assuming the US Open will be played. 



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Woof. From what I understand Tomas has a very strong personality. And yes, as TTMan points out, we know how it ended the last time Jo took on a former Sharapova coach.

Fingers crossed for Jo! If there's anything positive to this trial it's that the ambition and drive is still very much there.


 There was a comment in the straight to the point letters in the Daily Mail 28th July. Johanna teaming up with Maria Sharapova's old tennis coach -it's enough to make you scream. Trouble is that Sharapova's name is bad news although to be fair Hogstedt has coached other top players. Perhaps if Wozniacki's and Halep's names had been mentioned instead nobody would have bothered about it. On the other hand surely Jo could have found a coach who didn't have Sharapova connections. But as it's only a trial (and I'm not sure what Hogstedt would have made of yesterday's efforts) maybe nothing will come of it. 



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I hate to write this but although Johanna has a world ranking of 14 she is nowhere near that ranking these days. I accept that her knee problems are a major factor in posting this. After Wimbledon last year she did  not  enter the Asian swing even though Beijing was a mandatory event. Since the US Open last year she has played 8 matches including yesterdays. In the Australian Open against Jabeur she was nowhere near the standard  of 2019 and the same applies to yesterday against Jodie. The 3 wins she has had were over Kim Clijsters (a great from 8 to 19 years ago) Tatjana Maria  who it  turned was pregnant and survived a match point against Potapova. 



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Entry list out for Cincinnati/ New York, a few missing names.

Jo (10th on list) and Heather both hoping to play.

www.tennisteen.it/entry-list/wta/23462-wta-entry-list-24-30-agosto-2020.html

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ROSAMUND wrote:

I hate to write this but although Johanna has a world ranking of 14 she is nowhere near that ranking these days. I accept that her knee problems are a major factor in posting this. After Wimbledon last year she did  not  enter the Asian swing even though Beijing was a mandatory event. Since the US Open last year she has played 8 matches including yesterdays. In the Australian Open against Jabeur she was nowhere near the standard  of 2019 and the same applies to yesterday against Jodie. The 3 wins she has had were over Kim Clijsters (a great from 8 to 19 years ago) Tatjana Maria  who it  turned was pregnant and survived a match point against Potapova. 


 You might be right... you might be wrong!!! Time will tell. I agree though, the severity of the knee injury could be inhibiting but I feel the talent is still there.

Eastbourne 2019 Jo lost 6-3 6-2 to Jabeur, in Australia 2020 it was 6-4 6-2!  Jo only played 8 matches because she was KO'ed in R1 of 3 successive tournaments. This is an issue for many players recovering from a break, unless they get a lucky draw (like Serena at Wimbledon 2018). The alternative is to drop down a level or two, if their ranking allows that but then they have to play an enormous number of events.  I've said many times that I think the whole WTA ranking system needs a major overhaul. Naomi Cavaday was explaining how difficult it was for players like Jody B to rise up the rankings. You're being a bit unkind to Kim Clijsters. She gave a good performance against Garbine and Jo but like everyone else returning from a break (incl Jo) her errors were on the high side.

I guess you wrote this before Jo's comeback against Katie B? which was reminiscent of that 2019 Copper Box comeback against Putintseva. What were the magic words from Leon Smith that woke Jo up? Hopefully this week will get her more match fit for her first real tournament.

 



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I hate to write this but although Johanna has a world ranking of 14 she is nowhere near that ranking these days. I accept that her knee problems are a major factor in posting this. After Wimbledon last year she did  not  enter the Asian swing even though Beijing was a mandatory event. Since the US Open last year she has played 8 matches including yesterdays. In the Australian Open against Jabeur she was nowhere near the standard  of 2019 and the same applies to yesterday against Jodie. The 3 wins she has had were over Kim Clijsters (a great from 8 to 19 years ago) Tatjana Maria  who it  turned was pregnant and survived a match point against Potapova. 


 You might be right... you might be wrong!!! Time will tell. I agree though, the severity of the knee injury could be inhibiting but I feel the talent is still there.

Eastbourne 2019 Jo lost 6-3 6-2 to Jabeur, in Australia 2020 it was 6-4 6-2!  Jo only played 8 matches because she was KO'ed in R1 of 3 successive tournaments. This is an issue for many players recovering from a break, unless they get a lucky draw (like Serena at Wimbledon 2018). The alternative is to drop down a level or two, if their ranking allows that but then they have to play an enormous number of events.  I've said many times that I think the whole WTA ranking system needs a major overhaul. Naomi Cavaday was explaining how difficult it was for players like Jody B to rise up the rankings. You're being a bit unkind to Kim Clijsters. She gave a good performance against Garbine and Jo but like everyone else returning from a break (incl Jo) her errors were on the high side.

I guess you wrote this before Jo's comeback against Katie B? which was reminiscent of that 2019 Copper Box comeback against Putintseva. What were the magic words from Leon Smith that woke Jo up? Hopefully this week will get her more match fit for her first real tournament.

 


 Yes I did and before the start of the match. I watched the whole of the match on the BBC red button and to be frank I thought at 6-2 3-0 Jo was heading for a heavy defeat. Only 4 points on serve in the 1st set and 2 of those were in the 1st game. At least Jo didn't give  up and really got back into the match. Of course tennis matches can swing very quickly and the match I will always remember for that  is Jimmy Connors v. Mikael Pernfors at Wimbledon 1987. I saw Jodie play live before I ever saw Jo play (live or on TV) That was  in  the Liverpool Exhibition  back  in 2014. Jodie won a competition to play the unfit and retired Wimbledon Champion Marion Bartoli. Jodie won when Bartoli retired but Jodie would have won the match anyway. She then won the event beating Tara Moore in the final when Tara had played  winning Fed Cup singles that year.  To be honest I don't why Kim Clijsters with 3 children would want to return to the circuit at 36. I thought Laura Robson had ended Kim's  career in 2012. I notice she's now playing team tennis at the moment. Re number of games won in a match and disregard the tiebreaks  and consider 6-2 6-6, that makes Katie winning 12 games and Jo 8. Also I bet Katie won more points. But  winning tennis matches doesn't work like that. It's whoever wins the last point.  Re the Jabeur match at Eastbourne that was put on court 1 and not on centre court where it should have been played. I had to stand to watch that match so maybe just as well it didn't go on too long. However Jo did okay at Wimbledon after that. 



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JonH comes home wrote:

Entry list out for Cincinnati/ New York, a few missing names.

Jo (10th on list) and Heather both hoping to play.

www.tennisteen.it/entry-list/wta/23462-wta-entry-list-24-30-agosto-2020.html


 Names missing are those who may well miss the US Open. I read somewhere that as long as Serena Williams and Coco Gauff turn up for the US Open they don't care who's missing. 



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ROSAMUND wrote:

I guess you wrote this before Jo's comeback against Katie B? which was reminiscent of that 2019 Copper Box comeback against Putintseva. What were the magic words from Leon Smith that woke Jo up? Hopefully this week will get her more match fit for her first real tournament.


 Yes I did and before the start of the match. I... 

... I bet Katie won more points. But  winning tennis matches doesn't work like that. It's whoever wins the last point.  Re the Jabeur match at Eastbourne that was put on court 1 and not on centre court where it should have been played. I had to stand to watch that match so maybe just as well it didn't go on too long. However Jo did okay at Wimbledon after that. 


 Did a quick points tally (I don't guarantee my accuracy):

Match - Katie 67, Jo 59

S1 - Katie 29, Jo 19

S2 - Katie 32, Jo 30

Match from Jo being a set and 3-0 down - Katie 22, Jo 31.

Curious as to what happened there? Was it a complete change in Jo's mindset or had Jo been protecting her knee or was she just using the match as practice?

As for Jody's win, I think it was more significant as a highlight to Jody's potential than an indication of where Jo is at, especially as it was Jo's first match back AND it being without full line judging... we know how good Jo is at clipping the line. Lets also hope that Emma R turns into the Laura Robson we never got. 

 



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Jo was interviewed on Radio5 live drive at 5.35 today. General conversation about dealing with Coronavirus.  



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Jo was interviewed on Radio5 live drive at 5.35 today. General conversation about dealing with Coronavirus.  


 Thanks for the heads up. Could be some long road trips!! Wonder if Jo is travelling with Heather?



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Jo was interviewed on Radio5 live drive at 5.35 today. General conversation about dealing with Coronavirus.  


 Thanks for the heads up. Could be some long road trips!! Wonder if Jo is travelling with Heather?


 Not sure whether Jo travels with Heather or not. I know she talked about hiring a car in Lexington. But I dare say their agents sort these things out.  TTMan I 'm sure you  will appreciate this but Johanna's latest podcast is with Sue Barker. I haven't listened to it yet. 



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ROSAMUND wrote:
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Jo was interviewed on Radio5 live drive at 5.35 today. General conversation about dealing with Coronavirus.  


 Thanks for the heads up. Could be some long road trips!! Wonder if Jo is travelling with Heather?


 Not sure whether Jo travels with Heather or not. I know she talked about hiring a car in Lexington. But I dare say their agents sort these things out.  TTMan I 'm sure you  will appreciate this but Johanna's latest podcast is with Sue Barker. I haven't listened to it yet. 


 Following on the above listened to the podcast and found it really interesting. Johanna had done her research on Sue's career and the podcast followed through systematically. Found out 2 facts about Sue I did  not know before. Enjoyed listening to it.  



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ROSAMUND wrote:
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Jo was interviewed on Radio5 live drive at 5.35 today. General conversation about dealing with Coronavirus.  


 Thanks for the heads up. Could be some long road trips!! Wonder if Jo is travelling with Heather?


 Not sure whether Jo travels with Heather or not. I know she talked about hiring a car in Lexington. But I dare say their agents sort these things out.  TTMan I 'm sure you  will appreciate this but Johanna's latest podcast is with Sue Barker. I haven't listened to it yet. 


 Following on the above listened to the podcast and found it really interesting. Johanna had done her research on Sue's career and the podcast followed through systematically. Found out 2 facts about Sue I did  not know before. Enjoyed listening to it. 


 Finally got around to listening to the podcast (I've had a busy week). Sue Barker's comparison of the sport in her era to that of today was particularly interesting.  Sadly the (conventional) media haven't moved on in their off court agendas and social media is a mess.  Jo (and partner) do a competent job of putting the podcast together, as does Jo as presenter. 

I have real difficulty reconciling the polite, intelligent, affable Johanna Konta of her podcasts with the aloof, miserable, non team player currently being talked about on Stuart Fraser's Twitter account. Do you have access to Fraser's Times articles and what his stance is on Jo? (I refuse to pay their online subscription on principle).

I thought Jo entered into the spirit of the Brits Team event and put in a genuinely competitive effort at what must be quite a challenging time for her (injury, new coach, imminent tour restart, corona virus, etc). OK she's not one of the loud "lads" but not everyone is, thank god! But I have this nagging feeling there is some sort of back story here we don't know about, which is a shame. Which brings me neatly back to Sue's "fun" days of yesteryear.

 



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