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Coup Droit wrote:
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Report by Simon Briggs today on why Dan moved to Dubai. He decided on the move after practising in Dubai during our lockdowns in 2020. Dan said it made a bit more sense if I could travel in and out of there rather than being stuck in Britain if there was to be another lockdown. He decided to reside there for the future just as somewhere to practise outdoors a lot more than being at home and practising indoors at the NTC. Why did Kyle choose Bahamas  to  reside which seems more  off the beaten track than Dubai ?.


 So much closer to the US, where many of them spend a lot of winter.

Very good facilities. 

Zero tax. 

Lots of other players there so good training. 

A lot of that might be the same with Dubai - but Bahamas is more established and far better for the US.  


 Are there a lot of players there? 

Dubai qualifies on all the above plus I think is a much better geographic location and better training options. But point taken 



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Well, Bahamas is a better geographic location if you want to be close to the US

Why do you think Dubai has better training options?

THere's a lot of players who based themselves in the Bahamas in winter. Most at the Lleyton Hewitt centre, I imagine. Lleyton obviously was there a lot when playing. Nick K has a place there too, I believe.

No saying it's better than Dubai, which is promoting itself well, but it's better located for half the world.



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Coup Droit wrote:

Well, Bahamas is a better geographic location if you want to be close to the US

Why do you think Dubai has better training options?

THere's a lot of players who based themselves in the Bahamas in winter. Most at the Lleyton Hewitt centre, I imagine. Lleyton obviously was there a lot when playing. Nick K has a place there too, I believe.

No saying it's better than Dubai, which is promoting itself well, but it's better located for half the world.


 Being honest, I dont have details but I had the impression a lot of players are out in Dubai...just an impression of course, but sure I read that...Federer does, doesnt Andy use Dubai now as well as Florida?

In terms of tournies, USA has, what, US Open, Miami, IW, Canadian, Cinci and maybe 5 or 6 other events now? Europe and Asia (normally) have maybe 40 or 50 events in total. So it scores on that front!!

 

 



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I don't think anyone is based in Bahamas all year round. Mind you, half the players are not based anywhere for a large chunk of the year.

Yes, I'm sure Dubai is convenient for European tournies - its tax regime is obviously a great attraction.

Not sure many women are based there though?



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Friday 3rd of September 2021 09:02:02 AM

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DOesnt help much in terms of details but...

tennispredict.com/why-do-tennis-players-live-in-dubai/

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Coup Droit wrote:

I don't think anyone is based in Bahamas all year round. Mind you, half the players are not based anywhere for a large chunk of the year.

Yes, I'm sure Dubai is convenient for European tournies - its tax regime is obviously a great attraction.

Not sure many women are based there though?



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Friday 3rd of September 2021 09:02:02 AM


 Your fave Frenchwoman Kiki does!



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Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.

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Kyle did mention a year or two ago that there had been an issue with not having appropriate practice partners in the Bahamas. It's mentioned somewhere on the forum. And I did think at the time - "duh".

So lack of other players around was clearly a problem for him, at least at times when he was there.



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flamingowings wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

I don't think anyone is based in Bahamas all year round. Mind you, half the players are not based anywhere for a large chunk of the year.

Yes, I'm sure Dubai is convenient for European tournies - its tax regime is obviously a great attraction.

Not sure many women are based there though?


 Your fave Frenchwoman Kiki does!


 Well, that's one reason to steer well clear !  



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flamingowings wrote:

Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


 Andy has a family which probably dictates more where he resides permanantly, same with Roger and it's a lot easier to train all year in Majorca than it is in Birmingham.  With so many tennis players there you would think they would get their act together re drug testing, Roger Federer says he has never been tested while he has been in Dubai. Re the Bahamas thing, didn't Kyle suggest that a big problem was the lack of hitting partners there.



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Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


 While in some ways I agree, it can be a lifestyle choice as much, if not more than a moral choice. 



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flamingowings wrote:

Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


100%

And Joko too.

Who was very clear that she'd rather pay her tax and be able to go 'home' whenever she wished and not have to count days and work out if she had any spare, just to nip home. 



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emmsie69 wrote:
flamingowings wrote:

Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


 Andy has a family which probably dictates more where he resides permanantly, same with Roger and it's a lot easier to train all year in Majorca than it is in Birmingham.  With so many tennis players there you would think they would get their act together re drug testing, Roger Federer says he has never been tested while he has been in Dubai. Re the Bahamas thing, didn't Kyle suggest that a big problem was the lack of hitting partners there.


 Roger has a family...

A few Aussies were in the Bahamas.



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flamingowings wrote:
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Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


 Andy has a family which probably dictates more where he resides permanantly, same with Roger and it's a lot easier to train all year in Majorca than it is in Birmingham.  With so many tennis players there you would think they would get their act together re drug testing, Roger Federer says he has never been tested while he has been in Dubai. Re the Bahamas thing, didn't Kyle suggest that a big problem was the lack of hitting partners there.


 Roger has a family...

A few Aussies were in the Bahamas.


Rogers main residence is in Switzerland



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emmsie69 wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
emmsie69 wrote:
flamingowings wrote:

Sorry, give me Andy and Rafa and in fact anyone who does not do this over those that nominally "live" in tax havens.


 Andy has a family which probably dictates more where he resides permanantly, same with Roger and it's a lot easier to train all year in Majorca than it is in Birmingham.  With so many tennis players there you would think they would get their act together re drug testing, Roger Federer says he has never been tested while he has been in Dubai. Re the Bahamas thing, didn't Kyle suggest that a big problem was the lack of hitting partners there.


 Roger has a family...

A few Aussies were in the Bahamas.


Rogers main residence is in Switzerland


 We're talking fiscal residence here.

But Roger, of course, is pretty fortunate - I believe he's in a nice little tax friendly canton in Switzerland   

"Sa résidence fiscale se trouve, elle, ŕ Wollerau, dans le canton de Schwytz, réputé pour sa taxation douce, oů vivent les pilotes de F1 Massa et Räikkönen".



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